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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 12:15 p.m.
Thread: Next Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame</b></div><div>I'd do the 2nd rounder with the condition is was the last of the two picks. Or even 2025, or 2026's pick..

Wonder why you're thinking SJS would be on his no trade list. Because he scores against them? I don't think players go by those rules.. San Jose is a good place to play, sunny, beaches close by etc..</div></div>

Hockey players want to win. That is not going to happen in SJ until at least the 26-27 season, at which point Dvorak will not be part of the Sharks plans. And if he is all about sun and beaches, the NTC becomes a limiting factor when the Sharks want to flip him. And regardless, the pick options and deferring down the road does not hold much value. A #42 vs a 60-64 is about twice the trade value. VS a #82-90, where that Van pick is likely to land, its 4 -5x the value. This becomes extremely important to a team that may very well be looking to use that draft value to package with 14 and 33 to trade into a spot to draft a Buium or Paracek. Dovarak and Kovacevic just don't provide that kind of value.

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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WhoCares_ItsAFantasyGame</b></div><div>And there they are.. Two comments with absolutely no understanding of the game and player worth.

At 4M$+ Dvorak is an expensive player, but under 3M$ he becomes a better asset for the team since he is able to win faceoffs when it counts and that is something teams want on their rosters. So for San Jose to get a player like that up until TDL where they can trade him and get another return on him is a good asset to have especially at that time where they can probably get back that 2nd round pick considering they would hold another % of his salary for the remainder of the year to a team who'll need a player like that in their series. Until then he helps their younger guys develop in their skills on faceoffs.

Then you have a young defenseman in Kovacevic who is a responsible defensive player, which by all means SJS would need at some point, but yeah you guys have no clue what that means unless a player has sparkling numbers and looks good scoring. He can move the puck and play the blue line even with a team like the Habs who were not good this year but have more RHD than needed.

And SJS gets a 3rd round pick so don't lose that much overall.. So there is no overpayment for a deal like Dvorak, Kovacevic and a 3rd round for a 2nd round..</div></div>

Jedi mind tricks.

Kovacevic is NOT young. He will be 27 at the start of the 24-25 season. That is a player that is somewhere in the vicinity of their ceiling. There are other options for much less draft capital.
Then there is Dvorak. Same story but older. Look through the pending UFA's. Guys like him are all over that list and cost no assets. And the salary retention means nothing to the Sharks who will be closer to the floor than the cap.

We will take Dvorak and Kovacevic, but for Montreal prodigal son Marc-Eduard Vlasic.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 1:49 p.m.
Thread: Game 7 or this happens
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GM_SZK</b></div><div>Granlund is a decent option but I don't see the Leafs giving up anything to get a guy of that quality when they can just go the UFA route and/or slide Domi over to 2C...also as mentioned above SJS have used their 3 retention spots so leafs would need to pay more to a 3rd team...at the TDL 2025...maybe a deal like this could happen if needed

EDIT sorry forgot about your NYI trade...I won't argue over the weight of the deal either way but I actually think its a good deal for the Leafs! Could be its a 3 team deal and Marner goes elsewhere as I feel like NYI already have a guy in Marner's spot (Barzal)</div></div>

The reason they go that route for a Granlund, if we ignore all the reasons it can't work, is the UFA route results in a more expensive player that expects a long-term contract. Especially now that the cap is finally going up, everyone wants a piece of the pie. If they can find someone in the Granlund mold, they get to kick the tires before making a commitment.