Would you be willing to switch out Barron for Kovacevic? Sharks DO need RHD but beyond that they need either a young RHD with solid potential or a true established RHD like Roy/Pesce/Demelo/etc that they could get in Free Agency. Kovacevic is kind of in-between those two things. With Benning & Emberson healthy next year I like their 2/3 pairings but they need a top pairing guy

Even if the Sharks say OK, which I don't think they do for 42nd overall, I guarantee they are on Dvorak's 8-team NTL.

Why is San Jose paying a 2nd for Dvorak?

I think Barron could be avaible this summer but for something else

He's A montreal cap dump so that makes him so much more valuable

I would switch 'em out. But to tell you the truth, Kovacevic is NHL ready compared to Barron who is more of an offensive Dman and has weaknesses on the defensive side. He's more of a project. But if SJS would prefer Barron, sure.

I'd do the 2nd rounder with the condition is was the last of the two picks. Or even 2025, or 2026's pick..

Wonder why you're thinking SJS would be on his no trade list. Because he scores against them? I don't think players go by those rules.. San Jose is a good place to play, sunny, beaches close by etc..

And there they are.. Two comments with absolutely no understanding of the game and player worth.

At 4M$+ Dvorak is an expensive player, but under 3M$ he becomes a better asset for the team since he is able to win faceoffs when it counts and that is something teams want on their rosters. So for San Jose to get a player like that up until TDL where they can trade him and get another return on him is a good asset to have especially at that time where they can probably get back that 2nd round pick considering they would hold another % of his salary for the remainder of the year to a team who'll need a player like that in their series. Until then he helps their younger guys develop in their skills on faceoffs.

Then you have a young defenseman in Kovacevic who is a responsible defensive player, which by all means SJS would need at some point, but yeah you guys have no clue what that means unless a player has sparkling numbers and looks good scoring. He can move the puck and play the blue line even with a team like the Habs who were not good this year but have more RHD than needed.

And SJS gets a 3rd round pick so don't lose that much overall.. So there is no overpayment for a deal like Dvorak, Kovacevic and a 3rd round for a 2nd round..

Could be, he may be packaged on something else, or they could just sign him back and try to raise his defensive abilities as a project for the next 2 years if he can get his head around it.

Still think Kovacevic would fit better in SJS considering they need guys that can defend now instead of providing offensive needs from a blue liner.

Hockey players want to win. That is not going to happen in SJ until at least the 26-27 season, at which point Dvorak will not be part of the Sharks plans. And if he is all about sun and beaches, the NTC becomes a limiting factor when the Sharks want to flip him. And regardless, the pick options and deferring down the road does not hold much value. A #42 vs a 60-64 is about twice the trade value. VS a #82-90, where that Van pick is likely to land, its 4 -5x the value. This becomes extremely important to a team that may very well be looking to use that draft value to package with 14 and 33 to trade into a spot to draft a Buium or Paracek. Dovarak and Kovacevic just don't provide that kind of value.





Jedi mind tricks.

Kovacevic is NOT young. He will be 27 at the start of the 24-25 season. That is a player that is somewhere in the vicinity of their ceiling. There are other options for much less draft capital.
Then there is Dvorak. Same story but older. Look through the pending UFA's. Guys like him are all over that list and cost no assets. And the salary retention means nothing to the Sharks who will be closer to the floor than the cap.

We will take Dvorak and Kovacevic, but for Montreal prodigal son Marc-Eduard Vlasic.

Dvorak - If the deal is that they take him to flip him, he'll go. Monahan signed with the Habs with the intention of redeeming himself and being traded to a contending team. WIN were in the race and were, in fact, a good team during the season. Hence the move, and Monahan got a chance to go into a series team. Same could be said for Monahan. If you actually read what is in my comments, the retention isn't for the Shark's benefits, its for the second flip at TDL for a contending team which Dvorak would most likely go for to up his value. Dvorak 50% retention by Habs, then another by SHarks brings him into the 1.2 to 1.5M$ hit.. He's suddenly very attractive for other teams given he's now healed from his injuries.

Kovacevic - Defensemen get better with age, and most become the player they are when they hit 28-30 up until 34-35. I'm not saying he's goin to be top 4. But on the third pair, you get a solid defenseman who'll save you minutes for your two pairs. And a solid Dman gets you a 3rd pick or 2nd.

You're talking about the deal as if I was proposing Dvorak + Kovacevic vs a 2nd and don't even check out the 3rd pick that's included in the deal. Yes that is the deal, Dvorak + Kovacevic + 3rd round vs a 2nd round.

And given that it ain't a huge gap from those picks, it's just a bump up for Mtl who have enough RHD and SJS that would need some in their lineup since they have 3 real RHD in their lineup including AHL.

Come on, man. I provided you with the value chart that came right off of Montreal's HockeyNow page and pointed out that #42 is valued 4-5x higher (that constitutes a huge gap) than the Van 3rd will likely end up and the Dvorak dump (let's call it what it is) plus Kovacevic don't make up that difference. You literally quoted that last part but apparently didn't read it. Not to mention that Van pick is a 2025. SJ is not going to just keep kicking the can down the road.