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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2019 at 10:04 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 31, 2016 at 12:37 p.m.
Thread: Redoing the '17-'18 D
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div><i>That's not a real good for Gardiner is it? Leafs get a draft pick about 26 and 58 and don't improve in net by taking on Niemi 4.5m salary. Nielsen wouldn't be ready next year. Like the forwards but if Hyman if playing as well as he is playing now..I would like him locked up long term and more $.</i></div></div>

Niemi isn't in it to help the Leafs... It's to make the money work for Dallas. I agree, I would love to get more for Gardiner and they probably can. However, I would take draft picks or prospects for him at this point.

Nielsen has a good shot at being ready for sure. A big bodied 21 year old next year has every chance of making the team. Of course he isn't a lock, but I disagree with you that he's a lock not to be in the N next year.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 22, 2016 at 11:24 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 9, 2016 at 9:39 a.m.
Thread: Playing Around With Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brian123</b></div><div><i>From a leafs pov i think these trades are extremely generous. Lou wants a 2nd for bozak and they originally traded a 4th for marincin. Considering how much marincin improved his game since then accepting a 3rd and a 5th doesnt make sense. Should be a 2nd and a 3rd IMO. Regarding the tampa trade, if garrison is a cap dump then toronto should be getting the 2nd rounder, not the lightning. I am all for trading for a goalie but it should be someone with term, not a 1 year ufa.</i></div></div>

I don't disagree with you Brian... However, I would rather give up "too much" from the Leafs in these mock things and if we can get a better deal than that great! I would rather put out things like this and have some good discussion than just getting lampooned on here for Leafs robbing every other team if that makes sense.

I totally agree that you could get more for Bozak and Marincin in particular, but essentially the point is you deal them for as high draft picks as you can get.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 9, 2016 at 9:37 a.m.
Thread: Playing Around With Ideas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Juice</b></div><div><i><div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div><i>Potential goal scoring centres (Nylander) are worth more than Trouba.... In ten years, I might think differently. Bishop would help for one year then he's a UFA like Bernier. Rebuilding Leafs really don't need Garrison with Rielly and Gardiner on the LD. Arizona has lots of centres, can't see then giving up draft choices for 30 year old Bozak.</i></div></div>

Palhal....I've seen tons of comments from you on this site about how GM's won't want to give up many assets for only 1 year of this guy or 2 years of that guy...I really don't think that factors in as much as you think. If you have an idea for how much the player is looking to re-sign for and are willing to make an offer in that ballpark, you make the deal. Going after a guy like Bishop would be with the assumption that you're willing to pay him big bucks long term. You've made similar comments with JVR and how he's only got 2yrs left...that's an eternity in the NHL world.

And I think the idea of acquiring Garrison was more for salary dump purposes on Tampa's part to make the deal more attractive for them. There are probably 10-12 teams that would give a 3rd rounder for Bozak so you can swap Zona out for pretty much any other team....and Trouba is a 22yr old defenceman with a high ceiling...you have to give to get. That's fine if you prefer Nylander to him but the offer is fair.</i></div></div>

What he said. Exactly my thinking on all those points.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 9, 2016 at 9:33 a.m.
Thread: babsocks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>alex4avs</b></div><div><i>Leafs won't sign Stamkos, his signing would come at a bad time in the rebuild. If he was a UFA 2-3 years from now, it would work out perfectly. Leafs won't be competitive for at least 3 more seasons meaning Stamkos and his cap hit for the next 3 years sucks. Plus when the Leafs DO become competitive (minimum 3 years from now) Stamkos is hitting 30 years old. I think the 10 mil in cap space for an uncompetitive Leafs roster for the next 3 years is better than having him on the roster today.</i></div></div>

You're missing the point. You are paying him to lead the kids. Having Babcock for now is useless as the teams sucks. But THE way this rebuild will work is having Babcock put in the structure now and having guys like Stamkos around to lead the young talent. We have seen what happened in Edmonton when you just stock-pile young talent without talented leadership. Stamkos now is KEY to the rebuild. Even if you never win a thing with him, Leafs will be MUCH better off long term with having him now to lead the kids.