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Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 16 at 7:20 a.m.
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Thread: Ullmark to LA - Lindholm and Hanifin via Free Agency
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Seven years for 30 year old Lindholm???? He's not Bergeron. 9m?? You've been drinking the Flames fans kool aid.
LA isn't trading that for one year of Ullmark.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>Unless LA goes through a new leadership group, I see them going with Rittich next year and bringing in a cheap backup unless this 13 game stretch is followed by a Copleyesque regression.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GarthSnowsShoulderPads</b></div><div>I'm happy that the Canucks traded for Lindholm, but at no point in the last two years with—either the Flames or recently with the Canucks—have I seen a $9mm AAV player.
Any team who pays him more than $6.0mm AAV will regret that contract.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>I can't see Los Angeles spending their first this June on one year of Ullmark, despite his ability and obvious talent.

The Kings' record over the past two months is abysmal. They need to turn over as many players as possible to give the new coach a chance at success. The 2024 first is a good step in that direction.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bcarlo25</b></div><div>I have some concerns:
1. The following season - Marchand will need a new contract. I wouldn't blame him if he wants a raise. Frederic will need a BIG raise. Lohrei will be coming off his ELC. It doesn't look like the bruins will have enough space to cover all that.
2. Is Elias Lindholm worth $9M? That might be one of those UFA tickets that the team regrets immediately. In his 20s, he was mostly a 50-60 point guy that played a really good all around game, and had a couple outlier seasons playing with some freaks. Awesome player, but I'm just not seeing how $9M per is aging well in his 30s. I'm in the market for Elias Lindholm at 7x7, and that likely gets outbid. Maybe I could see 7x8 due to the need at the center position.
3. If you're going after Hanifin on a long-term deal, are you comfortable with lohrei pretty much capped as a third pairing guy? I guess that has worked in the past with Krug. It is something to think about though.

My golden rule is that if you're going to pay a guy at the top of the market, make sure he's a top of the market player, and if you look at boston's contracts, they appear to agree with this. Pastrnak got paid. McAvoy got paid. that's pretty much it under sweeney. Lindholm shouldn't be getting a hair less than Sebastian Aho just signed for. I would much rather do something like sign Hanifin, and see if you can pry O'Reilly out of Nashville.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dgibb10</b></div><div>DeSmith certainly goes for more especially on a 1 year deal.

If you put yourself in a position where you NEED to ship out Ullmark to clear cap space for free agency acquisitions, you put yourself in a terrible spot leverage wise and I would expect the return to honestly be Boston getting fleeced.

Think back to Monahan having to be dumped for a 1st bc they wanted the space to bring in Kadri</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>princessTom</b></div><div>That Lindholm contract is going to be a heavy burden a few years down the road, would really hope BOS avoids overpaying him

No need for DeSmith with Bussi and DiPietro in Providence, one of them will be the backup, use that money to get an actual 4th line winger

Everything else is solid, hopefully Ullmark could fetch a 1st in the offszn</div></div>

Thanks for the feedback guys
I got to say some things tho since I didn’t elaborate

- I know Lindholm contract isn’t a nice one. I just went for the higher end that I think a team could give him. It could definitely be less.

- Ullmark trade : the 2025 1st round pick could be replace with a 2nd round pick &amp; switch Jack Hughes for Arthur Kaliyev maybe ? Just spitballing.

- The backup position wasn’t that important. Any UFA vet on a 1 year deal or if management are good to go with Bussi/DiPietro, then be it