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Forum: Armchair-GM7 hours ago
Thread: Sending Marner Westward
Marner trade - I'd see that this could be an option for both teams; ANA gets a 80pts scorer, TOR gets a young potential player in Zegras and a good Defenseman.. Win win..

Tavares trade - I mean... PLD.. I don't know if Leafs fan would be happy about this.. It's the length of PLD's contract that bothers me for the Leafs to take on. Tavares' deal comes to an end, at TDL he may lift his NMC for a potential Cup contender IF Leafs aren't in again and Leafs would retain half his salary and would most likely get a prospect and a 1st late pick. But again.. Tavares will not waive if the Leafs are still in the race.

For the other two trades, pretty much good for both teams also. VGK get a few hundred K$ off their cap space, but I wonder if a good GM would hold off on any potential deal with VGK unless something comes back with the trade since they aren't even close to being in a bind here.. they have 20 player contracts and 800K$ left to spend including call ups.. They're about to lose Marchessault, Let them implode unless they give up their last remaining 2nd round picks for 25 & 26..
Forum: Armchair-GM8 hours ago
Thread: Lol imagine
Would not see Matheson being traded out at this point. He's a hometown guy that can be top 4 on a good series team (2nd line mostly). If our young group of guys can become what we hope they'll be, he'll be there when (if ever) Ghule and Reinbacher become our top 2. Matheson would most likely stay.

I think one of Barron, Kovacevic, Harris, Struble with the addition of Norlinder (to explore if a new town would jump start his career) could be more realistic for Habs to trade out. While some think these aren't good enough for Marner, and they may be right, Barron could potentially become a good top 4 if he can be coached to be more responsible defensively. He's got the offensive plays down, but the defensive side needs more development. Kovacevic is already playing good hockey with a bad team, so could be their 6th-7th guy. Harris and Struble are in development stages so they could could become something positive for the Leafs.

While they are not Top 4, teams don't win with only top 4 players anymore since the cap removed that possibility, but depth players like them who are whiling to hit and take a hit to move the puck become important to a series team. And from what we saw with the Leafs, that's what they need now.

I'd throw in there Dvorak (50% retention) or Armia (no retention) to help them get a center that can take face offs or a winger that can play 3rd line with offensive skills.

I would even switch that 3rd pick for a 2nd in 2025 to get something a bit better long term for the Leafs.
Forum: Mock-Draft8 hours ago
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 2:56 p.m.
Thread: Marner to Utah
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>I'm not a Dubas fan either, but we both have to admit that this team was destroyed under Hextal.
Not that Dubas is some great person to put it bacck together. But the truth is, there is only so much a GM can do for this team. There are and were limited pieces to work with.
Truth is I think Dubas over time will become a better GM. I think the reality is, he was promoted way to quickly. Didn't learn what he needed to learn before getting there.
Because of that on some things he got took to school.
But I think he's improving. He's also not bad at valuating talent.
But above all I think he was brought in to change the organization. To modernize it. JR didn't really do that, and Hextal was incompetent. So they needed someone capable of doing that.</div></div>

Can't argue with that, but still think Darche would've done better long term. He'd have started with the blue line and build something solid in order for the front line to be able to go back on offense. I'm sure many think Karlsson's addition was great, but it's a blessing he didn't finish -20 or worse again.. He's able to put up points but he's damn good at turnovers and not being able to play defense.

Anyways, what do we know.. We're just chatting about it while they are living it.. Who's the fool? LOL!
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 9:34 a.m.
Thread: Marner deal that can work
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Antorche</b></div><div>We don't want marner..... he doesn't know how to win and thats not the player Kent Hughes target</div></div>

Maybe not for that price of giving up two 1st round picks (top 10 - says top 3 protected, but even then), but if they accept to flip Habs picks for WIN 1st, and CAL 1st add Barron to that mix and someone like either Anderson (no retention) or Armia (50% retention) or Dvorak (50% retention) and suddenly Toronto has an NHL ready Defenseman, plus a good project in Barron that can play but would need a bit more coaching on his defensive side, they also get an NHL ready forward with less cap hit and either a guy who needs to redeem himself and will play hard (Anderson), or two guys that want another contract so they'll play to win and are also good on the defensive side which Toronto badly needs.

Marner knows how to win, he knows how to score and play. Habs need a scorer badly, he responds to that need. He's still in the + and is able to pass the puck. So either him or Nylander, and I'd go for it.

You can't judge a player like that and say he doesn't know how to win.. His team has a bad defense, very bad and it's because their GM's have no vision and gambled most of the cap on four forwards instead of ensuring they have at least two top 4 defensemen to play with two top 3 forwards that can bring up other players around them.

You can bank on 3rd liners on the first line when you have Matthews, Nylander and Tavares there to put it in or pass it to you. But if you have no one to protect the goalie, it becomes a problem.
Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 10:35 a.m.
Thread: Draft 2024 We have a trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Flynnster</b></div><div>What makes you think MTL wants PLD , THEY HAVE EYES…if he gets bought out from LA. I might think of doing one season 1 year contract tryout but he’s had issues on all three of his teams.</div></div>

He can bounce back. His issues with Columbus and Winnipeg were very simple and the trade he wanted from them was to Mtl which both didn’t give him. When WIN didn’t discuss with the Habs, he had no choice and went to LA. So it’s his bad season.. it happens.


IF the LAK would trade with the Habs I think this trade is a win win for both. Anderson and Dvorak can be moved, and PLD finally gets his way and wear a HABS jersey.

Only Hugues and Gorton really know if they want to take that chance.. No one else, not you me or “BuckRodgers”. But this attempt isn’t a bad one for value.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 3:03 p.m.
Thread: Calgary - 2024-25 - Off Season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Samsquanch14</b></div><div>I'd do that for Dube. I'm sure others will have an issue with it</div></div>

Dude... Dube, along with Carter Hart (Philadelphia Flyers), and Michael McLeod and Cal Foote, (New Jersey Devils) has been charged with sexual assault.

I wouldn't even give an old Habs puck signed by John Scott for him.

We picked Mailloux and everyone started treating him like he actually raped that woman he was with. He shared a photo with his teammates depicting himself (17 at the time) and an 18-year-old woman engaging in a sexual act, yet was treated like the most vile human beings. I remember posts saying the Mtl should be ashamed of picking a rapist, a sexual predator etc... He was 17 years old.. And made a serious error, with a technically adult woman but in no way shape or form did he rape that woman. I remember even the women of Sport TV saying how they were affected that the Habs would do such a thing... For god's sake.. I know he did wrong, it's stupid and he should not do this, but this new generation of kids don't have the social filter of knowing that sharing sex pics with someone is a very smart things these days..

He even needed to show up to meetings with Bettman in order to be able to play in the NHL... WTF.. Some players beat up their wives, kids, other people and don't need to go in front of the dirt bag.

Imagine taking on a guy who was actually charged with rape.. Habs City would explode..
Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 1:23 p.m.
Thread: Next Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kohnsharkosz</b></div><div>Hockey players want to win. That is not going to happen in SJ until at least the 26-27 season, at which point Dvorak will not be part of the Sharks plans. And if he is all about sun and beaches, the NTC becomes a limiting factor when the Sharks want to flip him. And regardless, the pick options and deferring down the road does not hold much value. A #42 vs a 60-64 is about twice the trade value. VS a #82-90, where that Van pick is likely to land, its 4 -5x the value. This becomes extremely important to a team that may very well be looking to use that draft value to package with 14 and 33 to trade into a spot to draft a Buium or Paracek. Dovarak and Kovacevic just don't provide that kind of value.

Jedi mind tricks.

Kovacevic is NOT young. He will be 27 at the start of the 24-25 season. That is a player that is somewhere in the vicinity of their ceiling. There are other options for much less draft capital.
Then there is Dvorak. Same story but older. Look through the pending UFA's. Guys like him are all over that list and cost no assets. And the salary retention means nothing to the Sharks who will be closer to the floor than the cap.

We will take Dvorak and Kovacevic, but for Montreal prodigal son Marc-Eduard Vlasic.</div></div>

Dvorak - If the deal is that they take him to flip him, he'll go. Monahan signed with the Habs with the intention of redeeming himself and being traded to a contending team. WIN were in the race and were, in fact, a good team during the season. Hence the move, and Monahan got a chance to go into a series team. Same could be said for Monahan. If you actually read what is in my comments, the retention isn't for the Shark's benefits, its for the second flip at TDL for a contending team which Dvorak would most likely go for to up his value. Dvorak 50% retention by Habs, then another by SHarks brings him into the 1.2 to 1.5M$ hit.. He's suddenly very attractive for other teams given he's now healed from his injuries.

Kovacevic - Defensemen get better with age, and most become the player they are when they hit 28-30 up until 34-35. I'm not saying he's goin to be top 4. But on the third pair, you get a solid defenseman who'll save you minutes for your two pairs. And a solid Dman gets you a 3rd pick or 2nd.

You're talking about the deal as if I was proposing Dvorak + Kovacevic vs a 2nd and don't even check out the 3rd pick that's included in the deal. Yes that is the deal, Dvorak + Kovacevic + 3rd round vs a 2nd round.

And given that it ain't a huge gap from those picks, it's just a bump up for Mtl who have enough RHD and SJS that would need some in their lineup since they have 3 real RHD in their lineup including AHL.
Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 10:21 a.m.
Thread: Next Habs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>glarson17</b></div><div>Why is San Jose paying a 2nd for Dvorak?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vols94</b></div><div>He's A montreal cap dump so that makes him so much more valuable</div></div>

And there they are.. Two comments with absolutely no understanding of the game and player worth.

At 4M$+ Dvorak is an expensive player, but under 3M$ he becomes a better asset for the team since he is able to win faceoffs when it counts and that is something teams want on their rosters. So for San Jose to get a player like that up until TDL where they can trade him and get another return on him is a good asset to have especially at that time where they can probably get back that 2nd round pick considering they would hold another % of his salary for the remainder of the year to a team who'll need a player like that in their series. Until then he helps their younger guys develop in their skills on faceoffs.

Then you have a young defenseman in Kovacevic who is a responsible defensive player, which by all means SJS would need at some point, but yeah you guys have no clue what that means unless a player has sparkling numbers and looks good scoring. He can move the puck and play the blue line even with a team like the Habs who were not good this year but have more RHD than needed.

And SJS gets a 3rd round pick so don't lose that much overall.. So there is no overpayment for a deal like Dvorak, Kovacevic and a 3rd round for a 2nd round..
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 11:15 a.m.
Thread: Habs win 2OA and go wild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dekes</b></div><div>Anderson contract is arguably worse then Dubois so doubt LA says yes. If Dubois+ is moved it’s for a starter goalie not a **** 4th liner who doesn’t have the speed he once relied on and a prospect who has a 50/50 chance of turning out</div></div>

Well.... Anderson is done within 3 seasons at 5M$/year, PLD still as 7 to go at 8.5M$/year... While PLD as a better point production, we're talking about 40pts last season and 1 goal in the playoffs. I don't see LAK retaining any salary on a deal like this, but the statement that Anderson's contract is worse, I'd pass on that since he's 3.5M$ less and done in 3.. Still has potential, but will mostly likely be a third/fourth liner for the next three if he doesn't get his sh*t together.

Same could be said for PLD.. Mtl would be taking one h*ll of a gamble for a trade like this to happen. I'd finish off Anderson's contract before I'd take on PLD's and provide picks for him. It's clear that LAK are not happy with him and his play, especially after giving him the big contract he wanted that with a NMC starting 2024-25 which means if they move him, it'll be during the summer else they'll have to negotiate with his future team and him before they can move him out. Habs take another risk there..

IF .. And I say IF.. LAK move him out, they'll probably have to pay because of the weight of the contract and performance issue he had. I'm thinking they'll keep him rather than pay to move him.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 9:28 a.m.
Thread: 1 for 1
Mailloux is closer to NHL than Musty.

While Musty seems to have a promising career, he is currently in the OHL, and while he's got 102 pts in 53 games, you never know what will happen when they go into the AHL or NHL. Many players hit 100 pts in their OHL, QMJHL, WHL, NCAA, etc leagues but aren't able to bring that to the NHL. Some players are just dominant in the junior leagues, but suddenly get phased when they start getting hit by men their size and able to hit hard.

Musty may become a dominant player, may not, we'll only see his future when he plays at that level. I'm not saying Mailloux is a overprice or underprice, I'm just saying that until someone see Musty play in the higher leagues, there is no definite way of knowing how he'll do. I'd keep Mailloux for his size and skills, and we all see what happens when your blueline isn't up to par with the other teams in the NHL come series time. Mailloux will probably be on the second line of defense and was basically a steal at draft because of his situation at that time. He would've gone way earlier in the draft had it not been.