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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:36 p.m.

Thread: Scenario 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>YeahDudeitsChris</b></div><div>Yeah you could include gradual growth as part of the prime but people usually complain when I do that because it’s such a subtle difference, but they are still technically getting better in that window so I chose to put it separate. </div></div>
This is not really correct either, according to recent research.
23-25 is the AVERAGE prime. Meaning there will be many cases of NHLers peaking in their careers before the age of 23 - about just as many whom peaks after the age of 25.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:17 p.m.

Thread: Scenario 2

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>YeahDudeitsChris</b></div><div>Prime isn’t 30. 18-23 is most growth, 23-25 is gradual growth, Prime is 25-28, 29-32 is early decline, 33+ is full decline. There have been countless studies on this using any number of metrics and the age ranges I listed are the general consensus</div></div>
To my knowledge, this is actually wrong.
The most recent research on the topic that I'm familiar with sets the average prime years to between 23-25.

It's a young man's sport.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:15 p.m.

Thread: Marner Trade Proposals Counter offers appreciated

Most of these you'll have to cut your expected returns in half.
Full NMC, 8 figure cap hit. You're looking at value closer to what Taylor Hall got when moved from Buffalo to Boston rather than Matthew Tkachuk level of return.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:11 p.m.

Thread: trade 10

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AEcho</b></div><div>Saros, and WPG's 2024 2nd for NJD 2024 1st, Daws, Casey, and NJD's 2025 4th</div></div>
This is a flat out insane return for a goalie. Nothing in the cap era comes remotely close to this.
#10 overall alone would be a hefty overpayment for 1 year of Saros.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:09 p.m.

Thread: Celebrini effect

Devils right side is probably already set between Hamilton, Marino and Nemec. Casey is likely penciled in to play in the minors throughout the 24-25 season.
I suppose there could be a possibility of Fitzy moving Marino in a hockey trade, in which case your suggested Devils trade would become more compelling.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 1:44 p.m.

Thread: Likely

There’s no point in giving up on Holtz’s talent for a couple of picks the Devils have zero need for.
Holtz might get traded for an impact player but will most likely get another year to prove himself in NJD’s lineup. He’s a good bet to really breakout without having to play for a coach that actively works against him.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 6:18 p.m.

Thread: Goalie Trade And A Big Signing

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bast</b></div><div>Yeah, I get why NJ won't go for it.

I just find it funny when fans start taking a dump on an opposing team's player as though we're negotiating actual trades infront of an arbiter.</div></div>
Fwiw I 'take dumps' on Markström and his perceived value on this board because I like to interrogate and refute ideas presented on a topics that I love - the NHL and the New Jersey Devils.
Also, I've been hating on Markström ever since 07-08 and not gonna stop now when he's being mocked to my favorite team for ludicrous returns.

That's just me though.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 5:55 p.m.

Thread: Whats The Asking Price For Akira Schmid

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>cody_tugak</b></div><div>Jack Campbell+Philip Broberg+Raphael Lavoie+2025 and 2026 3rd round picks good enough?</div></div>
No lmao. And even then, Fitzgerald just doesn't take pure cap dumps, not even when the Devils were at their worst in the rebuild was that a strategy ever utilized.

Like Cal above said, Schmid would likely only be traded in a package for an impact player, or maybe in a pure hockey trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 3:18 a.m.

Thread: Next Season Brainstorm

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeauxPreds1</b></div><div>What about holtz Casey and a lower pick not a 1st</div></div>
Maybe one of Holtz and Casey. Certainly not both of them though, no way. Would be an unprecedentedly large return for a goalie in the cap era.

Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 3:11 a.m.

Thread: Next Season Brainstorm

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeauxPreds1</b></div><div>Mercer wasn’t available at the deadline. He probably won’t be available in the off-season</div></div>
100%. Only goalie that might be somewhat available that the Devils could trade Mercer for is Swayman.
I love Saros but the return wouldn't be much more than a 2025 1st, the going rate for high-caliber rentals.

Forum: Armchair-GMSat. at 9:19 a.m.

Thread: The Mailman Delivers

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Czu8iks</b></div><div>Why trade for 13th forward?</div></div>
Big Bass is best bros with uncle Lindyyy

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 5:53 p.m.

Thread: Retooling

Much rather deal Holtz for Saros or Ullmark than frickin Jakob Markström.
Or just resign Kähkönen in free agency.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 4:19 p.m.

Thread: Take 2

That's not Kaiden Guhle (not that I'd want to trade Mercer for Guhle either but still).

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 2:35 p.m.

Thread: would the devils consider

Yes. For Swayman.

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 2:25 p.m.

Thread: Heavy

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NJTM</b></div><div>I may be in the minority, but I’d like to see the devils hold onto Alexander Holtz. I can’t imagine his eventual extension will be that expensive and keeps the salary situation under control. Under this roster, the devils would have to extend or replace a top 4 defenseman and both goaltenders after the season. They’d have to fit Luke Hughes extension in there as well. They’re gonna need to find some bargains and I think Holtz would qualify for that.</div></div>
100%. Holtz deserves at least one season with the Devils under a different coach other than Ruff and Green.
He has so much talent and still has a very good chance to be a key contributor in the Devils top 6 throughout the rest of this decade.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 2 at 3:36 p.m.

Thread: Cup Contenders v8

With that package I'd much rather the Devils go for Saros or Ullmark than frickin Markström.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 2 at 3:35 p.m.

Thread: devils

Flames add Rasmus Andersson and maybe this is fair.
If Mercer is being dealt it better be for Swayman and not this massively inconsistent 34 year old.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 2 at 3:33 p.m.

Thread: Shark Week 2nd Mock Roster 2024-2025

Saros might get one of Holtz, Casey or a 1st rd pick, not all three.
Not even the 10th overall pick on its own.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 1 at 4:41 p.m.

Thread: What could the Devils look like this coming season

Sorry to say it, but this AGM is beyond terrible from a Devils point of view.
Reads like a nightmare tbh.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 30 at 5:15 p.m.

Thread: I have THE trade

Lijegren and Saros for Marino and a 2nd?
Sold.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 30 at 3:15 p.m.

Thread: Leafs Next Year

At least 2 of the 5 pieces with most value in that Marner trade come from the Devils side of things (Mercer and #10).
I would think that Marner, between his cap hit and NMC, would fetch something closer to what Taylor Hall went for when traded to Boston a few years back - 2nd + roster player / prospect.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 30 at 2:49 p.m.

Thread: what will they look like next season

Hatakka was very good what I saw from him with the Devils this year.
Wouldn't put it past him to beat Kevin Bahl out for the 3LHD spot come next season.
With that said, I like Alexeyev as well and wouldn't be too upset if this trade actually went down.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 4:57 p.m.

Thread: 24-25

Interesting trade.
If the Devils could get Pärssinen included from the Predators side, I'd honestly really want Fitzy to consider this deal if offered.

Not a big fan of that Monahan signing however. Are better options in the forward UFA market for that kinda contract (Marchessault, Arvidsson, Duchene, Stephenson etc).

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 4:41 p.m.

Thread: Ullmark

lol

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 27 at 4:59 a.m.

Thread: Blow it up as much as we can

Bratt is pretty much untouchable. Stupidly good and still massively underrated. Devils MVP last season.

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