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Dubois-Torts reunion

Created by: Afan
Team: 2024-25 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: May 8, 2024
Published: May 8, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
With Dubois needing a fresh start(again), and Torts public displeasure for Couturier, could we see the 2 teams swap big deals?
Note on Laughton trade: I wasn't sure what Laughton would be worth, I remember hearing a first around the deadline. Comment what you think a fair return for Laughton would be if you disagree.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
3$2,800,000
2$2,000,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$6,000,000
1$850,000
1$850,000
Trades
1.
PHI
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc
  2. Spence, Jordan [RFA Rights]
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Couturier, Sean
  2. 2025 4th round pick (PHI)
2.
PHI
  1. 2026 5th round pick (CBJ)
Additional Details:
-If Atkinson plays in 50% of games the pick becomes a 2025 4th(CBJ)
-If Atkinson scores 40+ PTS the pick becomes a 2025 3rd(CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Atkinson, Cam ($1,875,000 retained)
3.
PHI
  1. 2024 5th round pick (EDM)
  2. 2025 1st round pick (EDM)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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Logo of the PHI
Logo of the CBJ
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the VGK
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the STL
Logo of the PHI
2025
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the COL
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the ANA
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the CAR
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
2026
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the CBJ
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$87,500,000$86,529,762$245,000$0$970,238

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$6,200,000$6,200,000
RW, LW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
$6,000,000$6,000,000
C, LW
UFA
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,625,000$2,625,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,100,000$2,100,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RW
RFA
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,900,000$1,900,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,375,000$2,375,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,600,000$1,600,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,300,000$2,300,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,275,000$3,275,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 7
$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
RFA
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,450,000$1,450,000
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,800,000$2,800,000
LD/RD
RFA
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$2,700,000$2,700,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,100,000$5,100,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 3
$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
UFA
$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
UFA

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May 8 at 5:39 p.m.
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That Dubois trade would be just a disaster waiting to happen lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USs9AXkGpMs&ab_channel=SpecmenceCBJ

This is what happened last time Torts and Dubois were on the same bench.
May 8 at 5:43 p.m.
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Even if LAK takes a bad contract back in return, I don't think a team in the league is going to touch Dubois and that contract. Very expensive buyout in LAK's future, or they pay a ton to get some bottom-feeder team to eat his contract.

It was a terrible deal the day they made it and it looks even worse now.
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May 8 at 5:48 p.m.
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Laughton isn't worth what you think he's worth.
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May 8 at 5:50 p.m.
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Don't worry, Torts isn't long for Flyers. He's at it again. When the team doesn't meet HIS expectations, it's always the players fault. Torts loves being fired, getting paid and then sounding so smart on TV.
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May 8 at 5:50 p.m.
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Columbus declines. There literally isn't a roster spot for Cam, as much as the fanbase loves him. We're talking about a mid-thirties guy who can't stay healthy and who's lost a step.
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May 8 at 5:51 p.m.
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Oilers got a bunch of those. I don't think they'd be interested at all, let alone give anything near that.
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May 8 at 5:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Roperttos
That Dubois trade would be just a disaster waiting to happen lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USs9AXkGpMs&ab_channel=SpecmenceCBJ

This is what happened last time Torts and Dubois were on the same bench.


Quoting: ginandtacos
Even if LAK takes a bad contract back in return, I don't think a team in the league is going to touch Dubois and that contract. Very expensive buyout in LAK's future, or they pay a ton to get some bottom-feeder team to eat his contract.

It was a terrible deal the day they made it and it looks even worse now.


NMC Jully 1st, Kings are stuck with him the entire run and are not looking into a buyout. If Byfield takes his role as the 3C and moves PLD to the wing the contract is likely salvageable. Watched him every game, he's frustrating, but folks act like he can't play top-6 minutes and has zero compete. He can, but LAs defensive system is greek to him and we did him no favor with linemates. New coach or new system, he'll return to form, but still look lazy and make boneheaded plays.

The thing that's frustrating is he's going to be a 60 point player next season and people will say Blake is a genius for not trading him.
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May 8 at 6:01 p.m.
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As much as I'd like to see Torts - Dubois round 2, I just don't want to see it in Flyers.
May 8 at 6:02 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
NMC Jully 1st, Kings are stuck with him the entire run and are not looking into a buyout. If Byfield takes his role as the 3C and moves PLD to the wing the contract is likely salvageable. Watched him every game, he's frustrating, but folks act like he can't play top-6 minutes and has zero compete. He can, but LAs defensive system is greek to him and we did him no favor with linemates. New coach or new system, he'll return to form, but still look lazy and make boneheaded plays.

The thing that's frustrating is he's going to be a 60 point player next season and people will say Blake is a genius for not trading him.


They should hope the Cup ends before 6/22 so they can buy him out at 1/3 price before he turns 26
May 8 at 6:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Justafan79
They should hope the Cup ends before 6/22 so they can buy him out at 1/3 price before he turns 26


Sorry if it wasn't clear from my text above, Blake clearly indicated in his press conference he has no wish to buyout PLD, LA is not moving forward with a buyout of any type for him.
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May 8 at 6:30 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
NMC Jully 1st, Kings are stuck with him the entire run and are not looking into a buyout. If Byfield takes his role as the 3C and moves PLD to the wing the contract is likely salvageable. Watched him every game, he's frustrating, but folks act like he can't play top-6 minutes and has zero compete. He can, but LAs defensive system is greek to him and we did him no favor with linemates. New coach or new system, he'll return to form, but still look lazy and make boneheaded plays.

The thing that's frustrating is he's going to be a 60 point player next season and people will say Blake is a genius for not trading him.


I guess as a Kings fan you have to hope it works out but idk how many more red flags you need to see before you wonder if maybe PLD is just a problem and he's not going to suddenly figure things out. You're talking about moving him to a wing and hoping he can score 60 points, for a guy you owe $8.5m for 7 more years. Yikes.
May 8 at 6:51 p.m.
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Quoting: tryger
Dawg, I’m from California, I’m just polite. I’m here to talk hockey not have fights.

I’m not sure what Blake can do but double down, a responsible GM would bow out because he made too many mistakes (moving Vilardi and Walker, Petersen, and now PLD).


Sorry that seemed anything but polite it reeked of contemptuous sarcasm
May 8 at 6:52 p.m.
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Sorry that seemed anything but polite it reeked of contemptuous sarcasm


Apologies.
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May 8 at 6:59 p.m.
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Apologies.


Me too then I just think it's a really bad idea to double down on stupid and PLD is doing just that. Personal opinion apology more than accepted
May 9 at 10:01 a.m.
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Flyers are trying to build a good culture, they are going to bring in a guy who last a few years on each team. He is a locker room cancer.
 
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