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<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Salzy</b></div><div>he really doesnt, Panarin doesnt take a bottom 3 team to contender status, McDavid doesnt even do that</div></div>

No, but he definitely makes other players want to go there in FA

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4 at 1:15 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>No, he really doesn't, and he torpedos our window.</div></div>

A 120 point player torpedoes a window?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4 at 1:14 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>I’d do this, after taking Cutter out of the deal!</div></div>

Then I would probably take the conditional second round pick out as well as the fifth.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4 at 1:10 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Davioparker</b></div><div>Yeah I actually like this deal for Carolina - the only hangup I could see is the value of that contract for Mika in the last couple of years. But I think I would be pleased if that were the Necas deal.</div></div>

In hockey, are you allowed to retain salary at the end of the contract only, or does it have to be a set amount for the remainder of the contract? If it could be like 1,500,000 retained for the last 2-3 years, I'd be willing to do that

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4 at 1:06 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>buffbry</b></div><div>With 2M retained on trouba or no go</div></div>

How about 1 million?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4 at 1:06 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Salzy</b></div><div>Why on earth would ANA trade Gauthier? or any young player near his value for Panarin? (who will be 33 come next season)

Ducks are not a trade fit for Breadman</div></div>

Panarin makes Anaheim instant contenders and would intrigue a lot of free agents to go there imo. Just no longer a fit in NY. Again also just basic ideas for a trade, not necessarily that they are realistic.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4 at 1:04 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KDarkOne99</b></div><div>The Canes trade is interesting. Certainly gives Carolina what they need but is NYR really willing to move Zibanejad? Are these teams willing to trade two big ticket items to a rival? Also Necas will want more money but you have the cap to give it to him.</div></div>

I think the reality is that we have seen the best from the Rangers core players. The only guy out of Kreider, Mika and Panarin keeping is Kreider just because of his NY legacy. I think they have serious conversations with each guy to retool the team.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4 at 12:59 p.m.

These are just basic frameworks, I know some of these trades are bad, just first thoughts on this

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 4 at 11:56 a.m.

Thread: Moves Coming

I know for the Winnipeg deal this might not be a good trade. Just trying to see what it would realistically take to make a move like that?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3 at 4:41 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>At this point a lateral move for Zibanejad is worth it to me. They get younger, faster, save cap, and get a 1st. It prolongs their window.</div></div>

I am assuming a signing for Stamkos is still in play then even after a trade like this?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3 at 4:38 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>Necas is a 25-year-old who can play first line RW with NYR and the 1st is additional bonus. NYR would also open like $2M in cap. They definitely take it.</div></div>

I'm not entirely sure Necas is that guy who will show up during the playoffs. He has been non-existent too many playoffs in a row that the resemblance to Mika is uncanny. It's almost like what Florida did with the Huberdeau trade. That's more the premise the rangers would need. A gritty guy who can dominate in the playoffs, I'm not quite convinced Necas is that different of a player to Mika in comparison. I get the first round pick, but that's still iffy from my end (late 1st again). If they were to include Jack Drury, that would get me to come around a little more.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3 at 4:34 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stanley_Cup_To_Manhattan</b></div><div>NYR accept but isn't Carolina moving Necas due to cap? Mika is making $8.5M.</div></div>

I'm not so sure it's that simple of a move for the Rangers either though. I think they need a guaranteed first line player coming back/a gamer who will show up during the playoffs. Necas is too similar of a player to Mika in my opinion. If it was for a Brady Tkachuk type player, I could see it.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3 at 4:32 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>An older more expensive player without the defensive side of the game? Why do the leafs do this?</div></div>

Again, just ideas, not saying they will happen. But player types/contract similarities are what make it more of a possibility in my opinion. Panarin's defense during the regular season was extremely underrated this season (the back check anyways). Plus this is more of a change of scenery type trade for both guys, this trade has been in the rumors for over a year now. Offensively Panarin has been statistically better than Marner based on point totals (that's where the balance comes in, age vs slightly less offensive production player).

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3 at 4:23 p.m.

Thread: Cup Aspirations

This is just a basic framework trade. I know more would be needed, but it'd be a starting point. Plus with Tkachuk rumors coming out, not sure Ottawa would have a leg to stand on (a la Karlsson trade). Quantity over quality.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 3 at 4:21 p.m.

It's more just basic framework/types of players I could see them making these moves for. Probably not great values from either end, but just ideas.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2 at 1:02 p.m.

Thread: Major Reconstruction

I'm more of a believer of giving these young guys a chance. I feel like we have heard so much hype around Robertson, and then they have yet to give him a chance. I am also always in favor of a bigger d man, and feel like Robertson could potentially be that guy. How do we know if we don't give him a chance?

I am also assuming you are speaking of Trouba? If so, he has a no movement clause, and I feel the only way he leaves New York is either at the end of his contract, or if he is bought out (and the likelihood of him going to the devils or isles is also then high).

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 2 at 12:54 p.m.

Thread: Major Reconstruction

Doesn't have to be Teravainen but a player of similar ilk would help. Also need to get younger and add more speed. As much as I like Trouba, his foot speed has gotten worse since he has first gotten here, and seems like at times, he wasn't able to keep up with the playoff hockey pace.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2023 at 5:19 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>Well I mean Panarin has regressed every season since coming to NY and has 8 goals on 4 expected goals, Laf has 5 on 3 expected

Not saying Laf is gonna put up 30 points but hes not gonna finish the season with 32 goals and around 60 points like hes approximately on pace to do rn.

Additionally the idea that he is untouchable is insane. We were at the point this summer where many thought he wouldnt even fetch a 1st in a trade so the idea that he is untouchable now makes no sense.</div></div>

It might just be me personally, but I've always been higher on Laf than I have been Kakko, and have more of a patience with him than I do Kakko. Maybe that's why. Never bought that hype in the summer anyways unless it was him straight up for a gamechanger.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2023 at 5:17 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Rags21</b></div><div>I don’t think he’s gonna regress since he scores alot of goals within 3 feet of the net and he’s picking up his assist totals. If anything he’ll regress when Panarin regresses, which doesn’t look like he will any time soon</div></div>

I agree with this, especially if you have been watching the games recently. He has a lot more confidence with the puck. And has a willingness to both shoot and go to the front of the net. Things us as fans have been clamoring for him to do.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2023 at 5:12 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KINGS67</b></div><div>Miller would probably have to be in the deal plus chytil.

Probably something like miller. Chytil. Good prospect. And a 1st at least</div></div>

I feel like this is more realistic, than Zib and Laf + more.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.

I think the headliners from that trade were Stutzle and Norris. If Kakko = norris, I think it's reasonable to say Sykora, Othmann, and a first round pick = stutzle.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2023 at 5:06 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>imawesome</b></div><div>You can't make a young player finally starting to play well untouchable in a trade for a top 5 player in the league.</div></div>

Last person I can remember like this was Erik Karlsson. And that trade wasn't nearly as close as the offer I feel like I'm offering now to Edmonton.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2023 at 5:04 p.m.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kyle_Okposo_Lover</b></div><div>first off, Laf has had a good few games. He is also overproducing quite a bit so hes gonna regress.

Additionally, to get untouchable players like Drai you gotta move untouchable players. A drai trade would need Mika and Laf, or some other equivalents. Then more</div></div>

For a year and a half though? I mean Zib is signed for like 5 more years, laff has team control for 4 more I think, plus three first round prospects and a top second round pick (seen as a high upside prospect in the system), plus a goalie who has the potential to start I feel like is fair. I think Mika and Laf would not be an option for Drury.

Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 10, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.