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Forum: Armchair-GMNov. 1, 2023 at 1:01 p.m.
Thread: Lindholm for DeBrusk plus
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>^This right here. Horvat w/ 25% retention last year went for 1st + Raty + Beauvillier

1st = 1st
Lysell = Raty
??? = Beauvillier

Beauvillier was 25yrs old a fringe 20/20 guy and had 1yr remaining at $4.1 million. DeBrusk is slightly better than a 20/20 guy, but he's a pending UFA. Frederic could be a 20/20 and signed for 1 more year at $2.3 million, but he's more of fringe 20/15 guy right now</div></div>

My assumption is Geekie/Grzelcyk without retention would hold similar value to Beauvalier. Ultimately, a lot of deals get lost in the cap filler valuation. Personally, I’d rather have Grzelcyk than Beauvalier as a player and my guess is he’d sign an extension if that’s what you wanted.

My assumption is Lysell holds more value than Raty. The Islander #1 is better than the Bruin one. Lindholm being a year older and entering FA in a year where cash is available makes his future contract expectations worse than what Horvat’s would be. I’d also say that increases Lindholm’s walk away risk and is likely a big consideration in his valuation long term vs rental.

I think there is something there, but it may need to be supplemented. I’ve generally added either Merkulov or Harrison in my renditions of the deal that don’t include DeBrusk

If DeBrusk is included, his expiring contract makes him an optimal playoff sniper rental. Hes a better player than Bettuzzi and he netted a top 10 protected pick with retention. You’d have to time the deal before the deadline to make that part work. It could add complexity, but his retention is about what Vancouver retained in Horvat and my guess is that would net a late 1 from a contender

From Boston’s perspective, I’d rather include Grz/Geekie/Harrison or Melkulov choice vs DeBrusk. The question is would Calgary be OK with that substitute. For the record, I’m OK going with what we have
Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 26, 2023 at 4:32 p.m.
Thread: Full blown rebuild trading every valuable piece
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>I'd throw Buffalo into that as well. I remember listening to Razor and Jaffe during their podcast (last year maybe) and Raycroft talked about how Colorado had started rebuilding when he was there back in 2008. So it took Colorado 14 years a few stud high-end picks in MacKinnon, Landeskog, Makar, Rantenen and some good trades to win a cup. It took them 8yrs just to become steady playoff contenders, then a few years of struggles in the playoffs before the cup came.</div></div>

Exactly, and even then look at NYR... gifted the 1st and 2nd overall picks and they're 3rd line wingers. You have to tank on the right years. Rebuilding can certainly work well though, I think St. Louis is the only team in the last 15+ years to win a cup without a first or second overall pick playing for them. They did have a 4th overall though. I think that's been Boston's issue in large part. Although, JVR can change that lol.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 19, 2023 at 9:24 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 12, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.
Thread: Supplemental Kings Deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>I don't put as much stock into the 30yr mark. With the advancement in training, medicine and technology in general you see more and more players playing deeper into their 30's. Most goalie doesn't peak till their late 20's. Ullmark will turn 30 just before the start of the season and his last year of his deal he'll be 31 years old. He's not in that window when you expect goalies to decline (33+ yr old). I'm not even really looking at the assets coming back to Boston in this as we chat. I'm looking at it more of Ullmark would be a good piece to help the Kings for a few years get the net to a point where its not a weakness.

Looking at the deal OP has, Arvidsson I'd be hesitant to move in a deal. Turcotte though, If I were a Kings fan I'd think about. Sure the talent is there and the #5OA title is on him, but he's already missed a good amount of time due to a concussion and he suffered a lower body injury the year before. He also hasn't exactly lit up the AHL like you'd expect a #5OA pick to do. Kings also have a lot of centers on their roster, where they could gamble and not hurt themselves at the NHL level.</div></div>

Turcotte + a roster player w a decent cap hit would be a fair trade IMO, BOS isnt trading Ullmark to LA unless they receive one of their surplus of young C's in return, ik most Kings fans dont like the idea of moving Turcotte, but its honestly more of a risk for Boston considering the points you mentioned above.

Arvidsson isnt the right player coming back to BOS IMO (even tho theyre probably moving him out), Iafallo, Grundstrom, Durzi are more likely candidates

Kings fans also seem to be so against the idea of trading for Ullmark, when theyre getting a solid Goalie who can hjelp them take that final leap in the playoffs which theyve been missing. Ya he likely wont put up the same numbers as this year, but hes still a very solid option in net, at a very reasonable 5mill for 2 years
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 12, 2023 at 8:49 a.m.
Thread: targets part1
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>You can scratch Locmelis off your list. His had a really good year in Sweden J-20 league and finished 4th in points overall. Represented Latvia at the U-20 WJC and then represented Latvia at the World's where he helped them win a bronze medal. He's also heading to UMass next year, so he'll be right in Boston's back yard, which is by design.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ON3M4N</b></div><div>You can scratch Locmelis off your list. His had a really good year in Sweden J-20 league and finished 4th in points overall. Represented Latvia at the U-20 WJC and then represented Latvia at the World's where he helped them win a bronze medal. He's also heading to UMass next year, so he'll be right in Boston's back yard, which is by design.</div></div>

agreed. Really interesting prospect. Would be great to watch him at UMass