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    Aug. 29, 2023 at 6:23 p.m.
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    Kucherov, Palat, Namestnikov
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 6:23 p.m.
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    Sens getting Stutzle and Sanderson over Laf and Byfield is such a luck win
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    Aug. 29, 2023 at 6:30 p.m.
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    Lidstrom, Fedorov, Konstantinov
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 6:33 p.m.
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    EDM 1979 or 1980.

    '79: Lowe, Messier, Anderson
    '80: Coffey, Kurri, Moog
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    Aug. 29, 2023 at 6:44 p.m.
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    Bergeron and Krejci with back to back second round picks isn’t half bad.

    Selecting Shenesyn over Barzal was a disaster, but they did end up with DeBrusk, Carlo, and Vladar from that draft.
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    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:00 p.m.
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    Perry and Getzlaf is one heck of a draft for the Ducks,
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:07 p.m.
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    Quoting: AlTintin1122
    Sens getting Stutzle and Sanderson over Laf and Byfield is such a luck win


    Stutzle was luck because any team would have picked him at 3 but they reached for Sanderson and it paid off hugely.
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:09 p.m.
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    The complete 2020 Ottawa Senators draft:

    Tim Stutzle
    Jake Sanderson
    Ridly Greig
    Roby Jarventie
    Tyler Kleven
    Egor Sokolov
    Leevi Merilainen
    Eric Engstrand
    Philippe Daoust
    Cole Reinhardt

    Truly one of the greatest moments in franchise history.
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    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:29 p.m.
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    Quoting: Dan_the_Man
    Kucherov, Palat, Namestnikov


    Not even close
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:30 p.m.
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    Quoting: HShockey
    Perry and Getzlaf is one heck of a draft for the Ducks,


    True
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:36 p.m.
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    Edited Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:42 p.m.
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    Not even close


    2 guys who were major major pieces of 2Cups and 2other final appearance and 2other conference finals appearances the big piece in getting McDonagh. Absolutely.
    Kucherov was 58 Palat 208
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:40 p.m.
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    1971 Habs, Lafleur and Robinson that kicked off the 6 cups in the next 13 years from 73-86, including 4 in a row from 75-79. Show me another draft that had that much success!
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:40 p.m.
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    Quoting: Dan_the_Man
    2 guys who were major major pieces of 2Cups and 2other final appearance and the big piece in getting McDonagh


    Kucherov is great, and probably better than the guys up there, but Palat and Namesnikov are nowhere near franchise defining. Kucherov isn’t even the face of that franchise. Dallas got their allstar forward, D and goalie in one draft. Vancouver got the 2 best players of their franchise. Ottawa got a superstar c and D + a very promising forward
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:43 p.m.
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    Dallas '17. Possibly 3 players that could have their numbers retired if things go as they should.

    Quoting: Celtics21
    Bergeron and Krejci with back to back second round picks isn’t half bad.

    Selecting Shenesyn over Barzal was a disaster, but they did end up with DeBrusk, Carlo, and Vladar from that draft.


    Bergeron and Krejci were in separate drafts though. Could go with Kessel, Lucic and Marchand in 2006.
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    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
    Kucherov is great, and probably better than the guys up there, but Palat and Namesnikov are nowhere near franchise defining. Kucherov isn’t even the face of that franchise. Dallas got their allstar forward, D and goalie in one draft. Vancouver got the 2 best players of their franchise. Ottawa got a superstar c and D + a very promising forward


    And how many cups? Palat was a lot more important than a lot of people realize.
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:44 p.m.
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    Quoting: bhavikp27
    Dallas '17. Possibly 3 players that could have their numbers retired if things go as they should.



    Bergeron and Krejci were in separate drafts though. Could go with Kessel, Lucic and Marchand in 2006.


    Yeah that was an insane draft
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:48 p.m.
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    Quoting: Dan_the_Man
    And how many cups?


    Lundkvist has 0 cups. Is he not franchise defining? If that is how you find a franchise defining player, Tom Johnson is more defining than Wayne Gretzky.

    Kucherov is franchise defining, but Palat isn’t. Hell, he isn’t with the team anymore
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:50 p.m.
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    Lundkvist has 0 cups. Is he not franchise defining? If that is how you find a franchise defining player, Tom Johnson is more defining than Wayne Gretzky


    Was he really better than Richter ? Or comparatively to JD back in the day?
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:55 p.m.
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    Quoting: Dan_the_Man
    Was he really better than Richter ?


    Richter never player with Johnson
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 7:58 p.m.
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    Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
    Richter never player with Johnson


    My point was I think of Rangers Goalies Richter is my first thought he actually won a cup. I hared that loved the 1940 chant
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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    Quoting: bhavikp27
    Dallas '17. Possibly 3 players that could have their numbers retired if things go as they should.



    Bergeron and Krejci were in separate drafts though. Could go with Kessel, Lucic and Marchand in 2006.


    Kessel #5
    Lucic #50
    Marchand #71

    They also had the 37th. Took a Russian that never played in the NHL Yuri Alexandrov.

    Imagine that good of a draft with the 37th pick busting.
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    Aug. 29, 2023 at 8:05 p.m.
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    Quoting: GuyGuyGuy
    Richter never player with Johnson


    Is Hank Patrick Roy, Martin Broduer , Dominik Hasek no, . He's that next lel and a half or so beneath partially because his name doesn't appear on the Cup
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.
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    Pens got Crosby and Letang in one draft. That was pretty franchise defining
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    Aug. 29, 2023 at 9:18 p.m.
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    Burke getting the Sedins has to be the best draft day magic ever. Crazy to even think about the possibility of them playing on separate teams
    Aug. 29, 2023 at 9:38 p.m.
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    Red Wings 89 will always be almost impossible to beat with how scouting has evolved

    In recent history it’s Dallas 2017 vs Ottawa 2020, 2 incredible hauls

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    Stutzle was luck because any team would have picked him at 3 but they reached for Sanderson and it paid off hugely.

    Many teams would have picked him 2nd OA, only Lafreniere was the consensus #1

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    The complete 2020 Ottawa Senators draft:

    Tim Stutzle
    Jake Sanderson
    Ridly Greig
    Roby Jarventie
    Tyler Kleven
    Egor Sokolov
    Leevi Merilainen
    Eric Engstrand
    Philippe Daoust
    Cole Reinhardt

    Truly one of the greatest moments in franchise history.

    One of the best drafts in NHL history… Fans already know about Stutzle but they are going to be notified about Sanderson and Greig in the very near future. Well Kleven too

    The thing is even after these 4, Jarventie and Merilainen could also end up good players. I’m not a big believer in Sokolov but he could play a bunch of games too. Unfortunately regarding Daoust, the kid seems too fragile as he keeps getting injured. Too bad because he’s a pretty nice talent too. Had some pretty sick advanced stats in the Q in his last season
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