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Armchair-GM
2 hours ago
Thread:
Curiosity Killed the Cap itols
Is that the asking price for Rossi / Gus?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
5 hours ago
Thread:
who to keep based on playoff performances
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logicalicesports</b></div><div>I don't believe the Caps really have a spot on the Roster for Ilya.
I wouldn't be opposed to this deal but where would he slot in?
Left side: Ovi, Miro, Milano, Maly
Right side: Wilson, Protas, Oshie and the single open roster spot that might go to Sgarbs
I mean I can see them maybe moving Milano but most likely not, and maybe the 4th line winger position is open but Ilya doesn't fit there</div></div>
I'd think VAN will have to pay more to get rid of llya's contract
TVR probably gets a 3rd on his own
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 3:55 p.m.
Thread:
Stupid move but sending a message
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BoringBrianMacLellan</b></div><div>Yea, but we've seen what happens when this team has too play without Carlson. It's not good. Doesn't matter how many goals you score if you're giving up 5 a game</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>perrystreett</b></div><div>Marner is obviously the better player but I also think the caps would decline. Front office is overly loyal imo</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brady_t12</b></div><div>They would decline. Not because the caps aren't massively winning this trade (because the caps are easily winning this trade), but because they're loyal to Carlson to a fault. I'd take Marner on the caps in a heartbeat.</div></div>
Agreed - I think the Caps should accept this (and I am a big fan of Carlson, unlike some Caps fans), but front office is too loyal. I don't even know if they'd consider it (even though I'd like to think they would for the sake of the organization / winning / contending).
Forum:
Washington Capitals
Yesterday at 1:15 p.m.
Thread:
2023-24 Season Thread
Pretty crazy that BMac got 3 draft picks (2nd, 3rd, 4th) for 2 healthy scratches in the playoffs (kuzy and mantha)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 10:26 a.m.
Thread:
Keeping Marner v1
Liljegren is maybe worth only one 2nd. Probably more like a 3rd.
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 9:41 a.m.
Thread:
Big Time
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingExLeafs</b></div><div>Add Leonard and turn one of those 2nds to a 1st.</div></div>
Add Matthews and Caps probably consider
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 9:40 a.m.
Thread:
No Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caps123</b></div><div>TOR was scared to play Liliegren during the playoffs ... now you think he's worth two second round picks?</div></div>
This
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 9:39 a.m.
Thread:
The Gods comment was the final straw
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>themostleaf33</b></div><div>Horrible trade for the Leafs. Crouse is mid. McBain is a 4C (defensive 3C at best).
We need defence or young talented roster players.
The ask from arizona would be Guenther or Durzi</div></div>
This is why the Leafs stink in the playoffs. All the fans and mgmt want young flashy skilled forwards. Yes, the Leafs need young talented players (literally every team does), but to win in the playoffs (in general, not just the Leafs), a team needs a balance of skill, physicality, scoring, and defense. Taking the value part of the trade aside, Crouse is a large .5 ppg player who can win puck battles and does the little things right, and McBain (like you said) is a defensive 3c...which would help (as you literally said) the Leafs on defense. Both are on great contracts as well.
But you can always stick with signing 10+m guys who are flashy but obviously haven't produced / shown up in the playoffs.
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 3:48 p.m.
Thread:
Decent Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logicalicesports</b></div><div>I know what you are saying but what if we were able to do the trade for Marner and get someone like Montour to slot in as the number 1 defenseman. He is absolutely capable of doing what Carlson does</div></div>
Yeah that could work - and I am all for getting Marner so i agree, the Caps should accept the above trade.
I was just talking solely on the Carlson "hate" (even though hate probably isn't the right word here) - he continues to be the scapegoat from the Caps fan base and a lot of it isn't deserved (imo)
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 2:59 p.m.
Thread:
Decent Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Logicalicesports</b></div><div>Caps fan here. DEAL no take backs.
This would be perfect for me because I am so ready for the Caps to get rid of Carlson. I don't care about the offensive production he has, he is terrible in the D-Zone and on odd man rushes. Get him gone</div></div>
While I would agree that the Caps should accept this, I cannot wait for all the Carlson haters to see how the team is without him. Carlson is so important to the Caps - you saw that last season when he was injured how poorly they played AND also this season, when he ate 26+ minutes a night for the final ~2months of the season.
Yes, he makes some horrible mistakes, but just be prepared to miss him when/if he's gone...
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 10:16 a.m.
Thread:
Marner
Strome is a big part of the Caps now and moving forward - I don't see him being traded.
Value aside, I actually see Strome as one of the very few "untouchables" for the Caps
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 10:14 a.m.
Thread:
MO OUT
I would LOVE if TOR signed Mantha - Leafs fans would absolutely hate Mantha. Would be hilarious
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 9:50 a.m.
Thread:
LA fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tkecanuck341</b></div><div>$5.25M in the AHL is worse.</div></div>
Ehhh I don't know...8.5m for 8 more years on the 4th line or 4.1m in the AHL for 3 more years...
Both are brutal and I'd assume PLD has a higher chance of a bounce-back season
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 10:18 a.m.
Thread:
Core four no more
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>brady_t12</b></div><div>The stupid thing is that this would be a massive win for the caps, but they probably wouldn’t consider it</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>qc14</b></div><div>Yea they wouldn't do this out of loyalty to Carlson which IMO is the right move</div></div>
I'd accept this trade 100% of the time and I am a big fan of Carlson (despite what other fans say)
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 10:45 a.m.
Thread:
Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ClockReads2113</b></div><div>I like Lilly but I'm not paying a 17OA pick for him. I've seen like a 100 TOR trades of Lilly to the Caps for a 2nd. I'd do that but Caps would need to make room. They currently have 4RHD making over $2M.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Brad_Treliving</b></div><div>I think there could be a lottery protection or give up a first in the 2025 draft. Last season, Liljegren was a much better player than Sandin and we still ended up getting a first from the Caps</div></div>
Liljegren is not worth a 1st, sorry bud
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Armchair-GM
May 2 at 12:18 p.m.
Thread:
Playoffs one more time
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>OTT declines</div></div>
Another bad take
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 2 at 12:03 p.m.
Thread:
Caps Retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>qc14</b></div><div>"Isn't trusted" isn't part of my evaluation of him as a player but is a pretty objective statement that affects how NHL franchises evaluate players. Caps fans did the same thing with Vrana and swearing that he would get moved for a first and look how that turned out.
The bigger thing is that we go through this song and dance every single time a rental could possibly be moved. THIS one is special and unlike the other 30 rentals moved over the last 5 years. They DEFINITELY are getting multiple firsts or top prospects or young NHL ready players. DeBrincat, Hanifin, Guentzel, Lindholm just from this year alone.
Want to swap out the first for McMichael for the first? Milano for TVR/Jensen? 4th for a 2nd? Sure. But the package for a rental of 1st + mediocre-in-a-good-way roster player + little extra draft capital is a pretty set in stone formula in the NHL</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Windjammer</b></div><div>Yup, at the TDL that might work. Asking for a TDL price for an entire year doesn't.
No one has said he's special or any different than any other top 6 player with a year of term. But teams don't trade players for things of no value to them. So, we're just saying that a unneeded, mediocre bottom six player isn't going to entice Winnipeg, you want him now, you need to offer the Jets a reason to do it.
Elsewise, the Jets just keep Ehlers and trade him at the TDL for a comparable or more suitable return if he doesn't resign.
Your forgetting that trades need to provide value for both sides and offering a player you want to get rid of but has no value to the other team, doesn't provide value.</div></div>
I mean, the above trade is pretty spot on to what Cat got over the 2023 summer...Cat (25 years old AND came with an extension) was traded for a serviceable bottom 6 winger (2.5m), a defensive prospect who at 21 already needed a change of scenery (and at BEST is going to be a bottom pairing nhl player), a late 1st (assuming it will be Boston's 2024 1st), and a 4th. The above trade is for a 28yo rental who doesn't have a great track-record and the return is a serviceable middle 6 winger (1.9m), a middle 1st (17oa), and a 4th. So your point about "at the TDL that might work" isn't valid.
For your point about not being valuable to the other team - sure, that makes sense. Every team has needs. Since you said the Jets would need help on the backend, take out Milano and add in Jensen (or TVR). And boom, there you have it. A top 4 RHD (probably worth a ~2nd), 17oa, and a 4th.
Forum:
Washington Capitals
May 1 at 10:30 a.m.
Thread:
2023-24 Season Thread
Need the Leafs to lose this series - I think if the Leafs lose this series, they will certainly be looking to shop Marner (and/or JT, which as a Caps fan, I have no interest in).
Forum:
Armchair-GM
May 1 at 9:47 a.m.
Thread:
Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jazzykiwi</b></div><div>I don’t think Lappy fits as a 3C or 4C and his ceiling seems to 2C, and I don’t think he’s ready for that, so I think one more year in Hershey would do him well. But yes I agree they do need a 1C. I just don’t see any true 1Cs that aren’t over 30 who are available in UFA, or who wouldn’t cost Leonard to acquire via trade. So I think taking a chance on a young player that just put up close to 40 points would be solid option. Strome seems to still be improving and I think he could put up 80 points next year with more talent. Perfetti could maybe get 60 pts, CMM maybe 40-45 pts. If you had that kind of center production it wouldn’t be elite, but still pretty good.
I like the versatility lindholm brings. Great defensive forward and gave off guy. Could easily play C or wing and based on his defensive and play driving skills, I think he could be a great option to help ovi too. We all know ovi doesn’t do well in the forecheck. So getting a guy like that I think would be great. Plus he’d be awesome in carberys man on man system.
I think miro needs another year and Amadio would be a solid bottom 6 guy</div></div>
Banking on all 3 centers having career years (monster years compared to what they had in the past) is rarely a good strategy for teams to do...while those numbers aren't "out of this world", they all would be having career years, which means the Caps offense would be having a monster year, which imo, I don't think 1-2 guys could change that.
I 50% agree, 50% disagree with your thoughts on Lappy. He definitely does not fit the 4c role. I agree his ceiling seems to be a 2c, but certainly not there yet. That being said, he definitely deserves a spot next year. He jumped into play this year and put up decent production and did not seem "outmatched" by the speed/physicality of the NHL. 22 points in 51 games is pretty good - compare that to McM who had 33 points in 80 games...big difference. I have never been a McM fan (unlike most Caps fans), but I think the Caps should package McM up and try to get a top 6 forward.
I just think Lindholm is going to get so overpaid, and I don't want the Caps to be the team that falls for it.
Agreed - Miro needs another year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 12:07 p.m.
Thread:
Build a real contender
Caps decline - would rather keep TVR if that's the return
Forum:
Washington Capitals
Apr. 30 at 11:21 a.m.
Thread:
2023-24 Season Thread
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>perrystreett</b></div><div>1. Where do we expect the team and GMBM to go from here? At a weird crossroads that I think is uncommon with the amount of cap space that should open up, enough young talent with some veteran talent and leadership, if we add a couple of good pieces we could potentially make a run but we would have to jeopardize our future even more. Coming into the season and at the trade deadline I wanted to solely focus on the future and sell as much as we could. Now, I want to add two top 6 forwards and try to compete.
2. Marner is my most wanted target we desperately need high end skill, I also would love a Stevie reunion for his speed and flexibility
3. I did not watch as many games this year as I normally do, do we think this Ovi is here to stay? (Lazy and out of shape imo, almost impossible to create offense or drive play when you're standing still the entire game). I see two options for him, 1. Winning still drives him and he'll get in shape and come back better or 2. He won his cup all he cares about now is passing gretzky. Unfortunately I think its the latter.
4. Based on Strome's comments about how much work oshie puts into playing and Oshie staying out last on the ice for a goodbye, do we think he retires? I hate to see another caps legend go out not on their own terms like backy but I think its best for the team and his day to day life.
5. I like most of the pieces on our D and thought AA played well at times in this series, I think our best bet would be moving Jensen if there are any takers and upgrade with a more physical and responsible RHD</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>qc14</b></div><div>1. I expect GMBM to keep on the "retool around Ovi/Carlson" train but be slightly more aggressive than he has been the last two years due to increased cap and honestly better assets to move. I think that's the right strategy to take. There's going to be pain when Ovi retires no matter what and full on tear-downs aren't exactly the guaranteed successes they once were.
2. Marner and Ehlers for me. Laine/Norris/Zegras are the next tier
3. Don't think he's lazy or really "out of shape" so much as he's 38 and had basically two competent teammates on offense in Strome and Carlson. It just happens, we need to adapt around it
4. I think it's 60/40 right now he retires. Also think GMBM will be a little more forceful after how the Backstrom stuff played out
5. I would like some more physicality on D as well but the problem is that they don't have a 2nd driver behind Carlson. Fehervary and to a lesser extent Sandin are fine complimentary top-4 guys but I really think they need a true Orlov replacement. Ideally would be an RD but get the BPA and work around the handedness later</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NoVaSpartan</b></div><div>Pesce comes to mind for me here. Feels like the type of player that could bring some defensive stability to Sandin and allow him to be a little more aggressive in the offensive zone.</div></div>
1. Agreed - I expect the retool to continue and GMBM pushes to compete. I do think he finds a way to get a top 6 forward and a top 4 defender. He has too much pressure not to after saying that is his goal the last 2 seasons.
2. Marner would be my #1. TOR is a toxic place to play, and I think Marner thrives wherever he goes next. My question is - what would a trade for him look like? McM, Jensen, 2024 1st and more?
3. Agreed with qc14 - Ovi is 38 years old...that is OLD! Hard to lead a team when he is 38 and playing with average players. Plus, not having a true 1c doesn't help. The Caps relied on him to score, and when he did, the Caps usually won. When he didn't, the Caps would score 1-2 goals (if that) and struggle. Goes back to the top 6 forward - if you can get 1-2 of those players, that would help immensely.
4. Oshie said he'd like to play next year, but would need a gurantee his back can be fixed. I personally would like him to retire and I hope GMBM is more forceful about the situation. Having Backy "retire" a handful of games into the season really hurt the Caps (both in terms of a top center retiring and having all that cap space unused).
5. Pesce comes to mind as well for that RHD. Tanev would be another (cheaper option). What would a contract look for Pesce?
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 10:05 a.m.
Thread:
blow it up
Such a good team...just can't get over the hump.
Maybe relocating to a new city would work? Not sure, just throwing out ideas
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 9:58 a.m.
Thread:
Offseason
Where is Lappy? He will definitely get full-time minutes next season.
I love the Kings trade. Depends on how LA sees Kuemper, but to me, I would be totally fine for a trade like that.
A few other thoughts:
1. The Caps current roster (and this roster), they are missing a 1c. Strome did an amazing job this year, but imo, he is a very solid 2c. McM is a 3c (similar to Eller I'd say). Lappy is a 3c. Dowd is a great 4c. But that leaves a 1c out of the picture. Do you see Perfetti projected as a 1c in the near-term? Would be hard for me to see that happening...Point is - I'd rather trade for someone better (obviously easier said than done). But if you are going to give up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd....I would want someone who comes in and takes over that 1c position.
2. Would rather use the money from Lindholm for someone better. The dude was not good this year. Plus, I think he will get more on the open market (which is a mistake too).
3. I agree RHD is needed - Matt Roy would be in my hopefuls to fill that need.
4. While I do not see this happening, Miro could get a chance next year at full-time, which could save you some money (he would replace Amadio). Again, I think he could use another full year in Hershey but it is a possibility.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 9:45 a.m.
Thread:
Season over whats next
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jfkst1</b></div><div>DET is still in their rebuild. PHI is at the early end of their rebuild. PIT, like WSH, is in denial on the need to start rebuilding due to core aging star players.</div></div>
Yeah totally agreed
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 30 at 9:33 a.m.
Thread:
What would a Crosby Deal look like
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuanDamienNebraska</b></div><div>Don’t you have an all too familiar 1st round loss to worry about? Typical Leafs fan throwing stones from a glass house. Amusing really.
Also, I know this isn’t a concept that you are familiar with, but Sid would never do something to hurt the betterment of the organization. If he were to want out, which he never will, he would inform us so that we could get the best possible return for him. Meanwhile, your stars are bickering on the bench, bickering about who can make a higher percentage of the team’s salary cap, and bickering about who is better bffs with Bieber, as they get thumped in round 1 yet again. Amusing.</div></div>
Love this - Well said
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