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Armchair-GM
Oct. 31, 2023 at 7:35 p.m.
Thread:
Flaming Hot Cheetos
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>6th in the atlantic</div></div>
4th. Above Buffalo, Florida, and Montreal.
Buffalo doesn’t have stable goaltending.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 31, 2023 at 7:34 p.m.
Thread:
Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>Comparing a 2nd pairing defenseman to a 1st line player makes no sense lmao and I’m a big fan of Chychrun I wanted the Flyers to empty the bank to get him. Boucher would be lucky to go in the 4th round of a redraft. Jarventie is nothing extraordinary he wouldn’t even be in our top 5 prospects realistically maybe not even top 10. There’s not a single player he makes the Flyers team over lmao. Brink is right behind Greig that doesn’t mean Brink is the next McDavid.</div></div>
The fact that you called Chychrun a second line defensemen is ludicrous. He may be a top 20 defensemen in the game. Who had one more year on his contract than Konnecy did when he was traded. He also played over 20 minutes a game in Arizona.
That said King of bad takes
Also I wouldn’t redraft Boucher at this point. He’s looked great when he’s played. He’s just gotten injured way to much to make a judgement on.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 31, 2023 at 6:50 p.m.
Thread:
Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>Lmao a bunch of second rate prospects and a 3rd liner doesn’t even get Laughton let alone TK.
Tk would start with Greig which Ottawa won’t move so there’s no chance TK goes to Ottawa if they decide to trade him.</div></div>
King of bad takes here. Greig currently leads the league in rookie scoring. Over Bedard and Cooley.
Boucher won't be traded until he has a healthy season.
Jarventie would have also made the Sens if they had cap space because he was dynamite in the preseason. He also is a very productive player from the 2020 draft.
He'd be one of the Flyers best prospects instantly and probably be in the NHL on that team.
All for a player that has a year and half left on his contract who is getting a similar return to Chychrun in half developped prospects.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 31, 2023 at 6:43 p.m.
Thread:
Flaming Hot Cheetos
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>I'd hold out for Ottawa first. It'll be top 10</div></div>
Dude, Ottawa is top 10 in the league in numerous offensive categories. There defensive play has been fine so far. Best it's been in about 6 years.
Goaltending has been fine and will get better. Not to mention from January to March from last year they were a top 10 team in hockey.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 31, 2023 at 6:38 p.m.
Thread:
Flaming Hot Cheetos
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prime_Jimbo</b></div><div>Nothing has been leaked $ wise other than they were close but now talks have halted. My guess, with recent D deals, $6.5M could get it done but I bet Hanafin is asking for at least. $7M</div></div>
In what world is Weegar worth Chabot, 1st and fourth. Accounting for the second for Ruzicka.
Chabot and Weegar are very similar defensemen. In no world is the difference between them a first. Also Chabot is younger.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 6:23 p.m.
Thread:
To the playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AnonymousSensFan</b></div><div>Why does everyone think Sens are now going to trade Pinto? They can sign him for league minimum contract, not trade anyone, and sign him next year to a moderate deal. No more cap issues, no need to dump anyone with assets to make room.
He made a dumb mistake, Sens haven't given up on him. He'll come back and probably play super motivated to shift the narrative.
Can't see them trading that in exchange for pointless depth pieces and a pick that won't help them for years.</div></div>
Shiny thing syndrome. Whatever is the main rumor people with just jump on even if it doesn't have merit.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.
Thread:
New 4C
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>He’s elite on faceoffs though so you have him take the draws
But yeah Ottawa is not looking to move cap anymore so no reason to lose a deal</div></div>
Yeah, super strong guy. Have him win then have Chartier take the defensive responsibilities cause he’s a better centermen.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.
Thread:
New 4C
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GreatWhiteNorth</b></div><div>That’s not how LTIR works.
Sens don’t get the full cap hit relief of Chabot’s entire season, they get whatever amount he is on IR for. Cap hit are accumulated daily. So if Chabot is on LTIR for 8 weeks, Sens would be allotted to exceed the upper limit but that total amount of 8 weeks salary of Chabot’s contract.
So Chabot makes $41.7K daily, if he’s out 8 weeks that’s a total of 56 days.
$41.7 x 56 = $2,335,200 - that’s the relief that Ottawa will receive, not $8,000,000</div></div>
Doesn’t exactly matter, they get enough to call up players to have a full roster.
If you’re thinking about Pinto he probably signs a one year contract near league minimum at the end of his suspension, goes down to play for Belleville and it does not affect the cap whatsoever. He is also eligible to sign with the Sens past the December 1st deadlines and play in the NHL during the year.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 11:12 a.m.
Thread:
whos even on their defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drambui</b></div><div>its also probably a matter of time before chychrun gets injured too</div></div>
Great defensemen, everybody but Brannstromm, Hamonic, and Sanderson are injury prone though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
Thread:
lines next game
Close instead of Gunette it’s Matinpalo.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 11:08 a.m.
Thread:
New 4C
Ottawa has 8 million in cap space for the next 4-6 weeks or for however long Chabot is out. Also based on the injury history of this core I suspect there will always be someone on LTIR. So they don’t need to make this trade.
Also note, Kastelic is probably better as a fourth line winger.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 11:07 a.m.
Thread:
This is our team going forward
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>That's so stupid. Not signed, but games still affect his suspension.
Granted, I don't think he should be suspended in the first place considering that he wasn't even betting on NHL games.</div></div>
It’s stupid. He is the exact type of person they target their 50 betting adds per game toward. A young college age kid. They don’t know how to properly handle their money. This suspension is not going to help him. He should be in the NHLPA player assistance program, to help get ride of whatever it was. Also the evidence published would probably not hold up in court. Breach of privacy with respect to the company that flagged his account action to the NHL as well.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.
Thread:
This is our team going forward
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>I’m pretty sure that’s not how it works the Kings had to get a special exemption from the league because their player got suspended and he still counted against the cap</div></div>
I believe that’s because it was for an on ice infraction. Because this is off-ice it doesn’t count towards the cap. Also, the December 1st deadline is waived so Pinto will probably sign when his suspension is done and go down and play in the AHL on a close to league minimum contract to get ready for next year. Thus he won’t even count towards the Sens cap.
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Armchair-GM
Oct. 28, 2023 at 11:01 a.m.
Thread:
Maybe
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AG_sweden</b></div><div>Make it a 2nd round pick then. But Sens needs healthy defence men at this point. They need Rd d-men, doesn't need to be Fabbro.</div></div>
There is no point to panic, Brannstromm probably won’t be out for that long, Zub will be back soon. So in that point you’re paying a first and or second to Nashville for Fabbro to play on your bottom pair. That’s not smart asset management, especially if you are diminishing your forward depth in Kubalik, and have Guenette, JBD, Thompson, Kleven, Matinpalo, Larson, and Heatherington who can provide the same time with varying degrees of success.
In summary, this trade makes absolutely no sense for Ottawa, again because they are playing 7 D in Belleville cause they have 7 D that should play. You could also argue that Kleven should be in the NHL anyway. (He and Matinpalo were calaled up today.)
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 26, 2023 at 2:01 p.m.
Thread:
Pierre Dorion Grandmaster
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MTLaveragefan</b></div><div>Formenton is probably in Russia for a reason... no extradition treaty</div></div>
I believe he’s in Switzerland with the team he played with last year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 26, 2023 at 1:59 p.m.
Thread:
This is our team going forward
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>Until game 42 when they still can’t sign him and 31 teams gain even more leverage than they had right now lol</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>He is? That's stupid. NHL disasterclass. If you're gonna give a stupid suspension, at least enforce it correctly.</div></div>
From what I read on TSN. The Sens could sign him and because of the suspension it wouldn’t count against the cap till he has finished the suspension. Then they could activate him.
So to refute the first quote. The Sens actually gain leverage in that the Sens accrue cap space while still being able to sign Pinto.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 26, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.
Thread:
This is our team going forward
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JoeROFLCOPTER</b></div><div>Praising Dorion for doing the expectation, not signing a player who'll be suspended for half the season to not over league min, is kinda funny to me.</div></div>
It’s just a reminder that however smart we as fans think we are. The GMs regardless of dumb we think they may be. Always know more than the fans and the insiders. It’s also telling that this didn’t leak out. Is for all the time people were bashing Dorian for not having a plan he knew this. And was waiting for this to get settled first.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 25, 2023 at 6:49 p.m.
Thread:
Im finally at this point and accepted it
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>I know I want him tho</div></div>
He's confirmed out for a while. Also it's best not to dismantle the best defensive core we've had since 06-07 for spare parts and Lawson Crouse.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 13, 2023 at 6:31 p.m.
Thread:
Brannstrom for immediate relief
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AIRWICK</b></div><div>I’d say trade Forsberg
Soogaurd seems like a capable backup. Don’t want a repeat of Gustuvsson. It’s already going down that road since forsberg has 2 more years left on his deal.</div></div>
This is something that people say when they have not watched the player. I would not be surprised if Forsberg ends up being better and more important than Korpisalo this year. Also goalies take a long time to develop, Sogaard is still way too young and that was shown last year. He would be an ideal backup for many many teams in the league. And he's on a great salary talking about Forsberg.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 12, 2023 at 7:09 p.m.
Thread:
Trades Im living in fantasy land leave me alone
I'd love to get Tye Kartye. Very underrated and was great in the playoffs last year.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 12, 2023 at 7:05 p.m.
Thread:
move on
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caufield</b></div><div>tbf, MTL was like 4 pts away from a playoff spot on DEC 1 last year, and then injuries started again. If MTL doesn't get this injured this year, they will be super underrated and finish way higher than people though. I still don't think they make the playoffs in any scenario, but they definitely could finish in the high 20s this year</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>With the game yesterday, I’m pretty confident this team can compete for a wildcard spot. Helping our rival won’t be helpful</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GuyGuyGuy</b></div><div>They got far in the game last night and they looked better than Ottawa. I think they might have a chance if they stay healthy</div></div>
Carolina is a far better team than Toronto, better coached and has better goaltending. Ottawa won the first period and could have won the game if not for Andersen. I didn't see the Montreal and Toronto game but I saw a close score.
However, Ottawa, Buffalo, Florida, Boston, Detroit, and Tampa are all in a similar echelon and I think that with the quality of roster that Montreal is just below that. They might surprise if stuff falls their way but their goaltending would have to be excellent cause Ottawa, Buffalo, Detroit, and even Tampa are going to score a lot and not defend or let in a lot.
Keep in mind that Ottawa was also only 6 pts out of a playoff spot with huge injury trouble last year as well.
I think Montreal will finish last but they won't be a pushover. Similar to Ottawa the last few years, hard team to play, but they lose more often then they win.
Also, important to note this was the first game. If we are truly going of the first game then Edmonton would be trading 97 et al and Vancouver would be the class of the league.
We won't see the good teams till end of November.
Forum:
Trade Machine Proposals
Oct. 12, 2023 at 6:56 p.m.
Thread:
Col - Ott avs get Pinto
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoxNix</b></div><div>Colorado might be interested in Pinto but not if they have to take on Brannstrom and Joseph to get him.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Novistic</b></div><div>I don't really think we need Pinto. And at the expense of the other two, it's not worth it. I personally don't believe that Pinto is an upgrade over O'Connor either, but I don't really watch sens hockey so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Do the sens really need Girard anyway? The only thing the avs are missing is defensive depth, it makes no sense to get rid of Girard in any situation.</div></div>
This trade really does not make much sense.
Brannstromm is an underatted member of Ottawa's defense and is routinely better than Chabot and Chychrun on some nights.
Joseph is a pretty important member of the forward group.
So, if Ottawa is sending Pinto, Joseph, and Brannstrom. For Girard and other pieces that won't make much of a difference or suit a need. Then there is zero point for this trade.
They have elimanated the problem, with a solution that doesn't benefit (specifically) Ottawa neither Colorado given that Pinto is probably not good enough yet to play 2C on Colorado. He will get there though.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 12, 2023 at 6:51 p.m.
Thread:
Please claim him
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>The Sokolov loss isn't hat I was commenting on. He could very easily clear waivers.
Losing 2 x recent first round, RD's for nothing is what I was commenting on. Losing Thopson and JBD within a few days is very bad. Signing a guy like Hamonic is the reason for it.
if I remember correctly, they didn't want to include either guy in the Chychrun trade, because they wanted to keep them. Just to lose them a few months later for nothing. Just odd asset management.
I still like a lot of what Dorion is doing, but these 2 are just strange to me.</div></div>
Low and behold in hindsight, that JBD passed waiver and Thompson ended back up in Ottawa.
I think that there was interest, however the salary cap prevented some teams.
He probably knew that both of them would pass through waivers.
Also with Matinpalo and Guennette they have serious internal competition.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Oct. 2, 2023 at 10:33 p.m.
Thread:
Please claim him
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>Thanks! Big ouch for the Sens. I would not be surprised if multiple teams put an offer in on JBD.
I can see Arizona, Colorado, Pittsburgh and maybe even the Leafs putting a claim in on him. I am sure there are several other teams.
Losing Thompson and JBD is very poor asset management on Ottawas side of things.</div></div>
You can’t fault the team or the front office if neither player is good enough to make the team. Frankly, Sokolov has been outplayed by Smjelka and Jarventie.
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Armchair-GM
Sep. 10, 2023 at 9:50 a.m.
Thread:
Would Chabot pair with Rielly
The logic that the OP has made is suspect.
Given that Nylander with a super pricy extension is getting the world and Chabot, on what will become a steal of a contract (with the rising cap) is getting very little in return. Especially cause Brodie would be a UFA in a year. The first and third is nothing for a top pairing dmen. That is part of the leadership group on their team.
Vancouver is also getting nothing back because Timmins is a 6/7, Jankrok is just depth, and a 2nd would be the cost of retention.
The idea is also flawed because both Reilly and Chabot like to be aggressive and play out.
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