I don't think the Jets have the leverage for that kind of haul for a kid who isn't NHL ready and was a 14OA pick who hasn't really overplayed his slot. Gavin Brindley outplayed and outscored him on the same line last season, for example.

You can't fool me. That's just Karson Kuhlman with a mustache and glasses!

I feel like if Joshua is signing for $2.5M, then nucks would've signed him already

2 things.

Joshua is signing for 4+ if it isn't with the Canucks.
And
You gotta pay the bad tax for both of those players you can sign zadorov for 6$ by 6 and Joshua 4.5 by 4

Agreed; Frankly, the ‘25 1st alone might be a bit rich, even assuming it’s heavily protected (maybe T-14).

Ceulemans and Dumais alone feels more appropriate. They both come with pros and cons, and I don't know how likely either is to break onto the Jackets, either. The fact both will need at least a year of AHL time is probably also extremely valuable to the Jets.

Winnipeg isn't waiting to 25 for the pick if they're only getting a quantity package.

For this reason I don't think he's going to pull the value most are thinking. Hell I think most GMs might stay away because the reason he's doing this is because he clearest path to potential playing time. I think at the end of the day he's going to end up in Chicago or Columbus and that's just not me being a homer. He wants the path of least resistance to make the show.

Fair. I also admit I’m higher on Dumais than most.

Canucks would just sign Zadorov and Joshua for those prices

I would like to be as well but double hip surgery and sports hernia surgery at 19 while also playing in the Q inflated numbers.
Vitalii Abramov had 300 points in 3 Q seasons, look where he is now

Rutger is also a bigger and tougher player. We don't have any 2 end forwards (of top 6 quality/potential) so that's another reason i like him
I'm predicting Brindley may be better than KJ, from what I saw of just 1 game

Again, fair! But PPG Dumais has produced at a higher rate, and that is with the surgery addressing issues that he had been dealing with for years now.

Maybe he comes out of rehab a different player (which, again, not unreasonable to expect), but I still like him. Abramov was a kid who generally produced at a high level in the AHL, but never cracked the NHL. Wouldn’t blame the kid for signing a KHL contract that took him to NHL UFA.

Scott Wheeler did a dive, and relative levels of production across all junior levels, this is a kid whose floor projects as Conor Garland. If that’s the level we are supposed to expect, I’m OK with it.

All told. It’s one thing if Dumais is in a trade for an established, need-now player, versus another prospect. Just makes for a few years of nervousness when dealing with who turns into who over time for prospects. I wouldn’t hate this trade, but I also feel like the ‘25 1st alone would be fair.