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Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 minutes ago
Thread:
How Much For Necas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lime</b></div><div>You think maybe a second + fourth/fifth + Ferraro would get it done? Or is that still too much?</div></div>
What about Bordeleau + SJ 2nd (upgrades to the Vegas 1st if Vegas makes playoffs)
- So that pick is pretty much guaranteed in the 17-36 range, barring Vegas missing playoffs AND SJ having a surprisingly good year.
- Bords is a young forward with decent potential and NHL ready. Likely sign in the 1-2.5 mil range as an RFA and would slot well on a 3rd line scoring role
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Armchair-GM
22 minutes ago
Thread:
How Much For Necas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lime</b></div><div>Fully agree with this, I have no idea what the Vegas pick is gonna be. I don't know about Ferraro, I really liked him at first but it feels like ever since Burns left he just hasn't found a partner here and he gets violently overplayed with top pairing minutes. I just don't think we have anything else that Carolina would be interested in.</div></div>
It's hard to put it on him. You look FrozenPool and see his linemate share % and he is literally with a new d-partner every other game for the past 2 years. it's going to be hard to find consistency like that, and the quality of those d-partners are bottom pairing guys in most competitive teams.
Certainly not being set up for success but he had some really fantastic stretches this season, and he's a leader in that room. With Hertl gone I just feel they've lost too many guys that keep that culture alive in that room
Forum:
Armchair-GM
48 minutes ago
Thread:
How Much For Necas
I think it's a mistake to move Ferraro from a moral perspective and I think that Vegas pick should not be seen as expendable whatsoever.
this is a team that's losing a ton of players in the offseason and their top 6 are habitually injured. I wouldn't be surprised to see that pick in the top 10 (also wouldn't be surprised to see it at 32)
Forum:
Mock-Draft
1 hour ago
Thread:
Two rounds with trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Future top-pair dman available in this draft: Levshunov, Buium, Dickinson and Silayev.
I think all four gone by 7 or 8 pick.
Yakemchuk is offense only...and completed about one-third of his passes in juniors.
I think 15-20 is about right and I could see him slip further.
I could also see Emery, Elick and Jiricek all go ahead of him.
I don't pay attention to Dolans....for one, I am Devils fan; and two, its the Dolans.</div></div>
I haven't seen a single scout describe Yakemchuk as pure offense. The most consistent comparison I see for him is Petro, physical and punishing (sneaky dirty) with great offensive upside.
What sharks need more than anything on the Blueline is someone who is, maybe not PURE offense, but on another level offensively. Cagnoni is the only true puckmoving d-man in their system. they have a lot of fantastic shutdown/2-way d-men that probably cap at 35 points. I don't think Saliyev or Dickenson are those guys. Buium, I'd absolutely go after, but Parekh is the best pure offensive d-man (and a righty) so I'd 100% trade up to the 10ish range to get him (not 2 early 2nds though)
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Mock-Draft
2 hours ago
Thread:
Two rounds with trades
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>Build around blueline...Grier gets it. </div></div>
Yes, but a blueliner of similar caliber will be available in the 10-14 range where they're aren't giving up WAY too much to move up only 7 spots.
Also Zetterlund is borderline untouchable & Yakemchuk doesn't fall that far.
Also NYR owner is the owner of the Dome and it was reported they want the Rangers to pick in the first round for the spectacle.
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Armchair-GM
3 hours ago
Thread:
Next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canuck4life</b></div><div>Michael Amadio was on the Golden Knights this year, is that a bad team?
Sprong was on the wings, wings almost made the playoffs, are they a bad team?</div></div>
What in the world are you talking about. You're arguing a point I'm not even making
Forum:
Armchair-GM
3 hours ago
Thread:
Next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canuck4life</b></div><div>I'm sorry to say, but you're a long ways from competing. Yes, Celebrini and Smith help, but your D Core is horrendous, don't have much on the wing. Have 2 anchor contracts in Couture and Vlasic.
Marchessault is going to want in the 7 million range over multiple years. Amadio is not better than Mikheyev and Sprong is a better offensive player, but Mikheyev is definitely the stronger 2 way winger.
Duchene is on his way to a cup final, only to go to the worst team in the league after? Domi is staying with the Leafs. I think the only player you could argue is Stephenson just from the sheer overpay they would have to do.
Or 2 years of Mikheyev at manageable cap hit.</div></div>
I gave you examples of Free Agents going to bad teams. I don't think you understand what I'm saying so there's no point in continuing here. And no Amadio and Sprong are both so much better it's not close
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Armchair-GM
4 hours ago
Thread:
Next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canuck4life</b></div><div>OK lol Who do you think the Sharks have a shot at?</div></div>
Stephenson, Amadio, Duchene, Domi, Teräväinen, Sprong, Duclair, Toffoli, Marchessault. There's a lot of options better than taking on a guy like Mikheyev and every year a couple guys price themselves out from competitive teams and sign short term with a high cap hit. If sharks didn't land Celebrini it would be much harder, but they did and that'll attract some guys
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Armchair-GM
4 hours ago
Thread:
Next year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Canuck4life</b></div><div>Lol do you think your team is going to be able to attract any "good" forwards. Mikheyev isn't a bad player, he gets plenty of chances and still managed 30 points this year. Great on the PK and plenty fast. He's probably overpaid by 1.5 per. Still a useful player.</div></div>
Yes I do.
1. California
2. insane cap space to overpay short term (see CHI and ANA last year)
3. Celebrini and possibly Smith
Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 hours ago
Thread:
Next year
Sharks pass. There's ACTUAL good forwards they could get in free agency
Forum:
Mock-Draft
4 hours ago
Thread:
Two rounds with trades
If the Sharks trade the 14th, 33rd, and 42nd picks for Saliyev at 7 I'll no longer be an avid defender of Grier.
That would be very bad, especially if Parekh falls to 13. The difference in talent from 7 to 14 is way too narrow to give up TWO picks in the first 10 picks in the 2nd round for. Especially considering the last thing they need is another LHD
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Armchair-GM
5 hours ago
Thread:
Nikishin is coming over
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TrippTracy</b></div><div>Burns can only be traded to 3 teams, one of those is Dallas. They wouldn't want to take on his cap hit. I think Florida was maybe another team he didn't have on his No trade list and they definitely won't take on his cap hit. So you're stuck with him or you buy him out.</div></div>
Sharks would 100% take him back for future considerations if he's willing to go back (with the guarantee to get dealt to a contender at the deadline). Especially if it prevents a buyout. If he gets bought out then that adds an extra year of no retention slots for the Sharks.
Would also be beneficial to have a true puck-moving RHD on the Sharks blue line for a year to give Thrun or Shakir a half decent d-partner
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Armchair-GM
6 hours ago
Thread:
Early Look at Next Season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>villenash</b></div><div>What I’d look into:
- trade market for a Karlsson trade
- trade market for Hill
- trade one of Hague/McNabb/Whitecloud
- if Theodore won’t re-sign this summer, do you consider a trade?
- re-sign Marchessault
- let Carrier walk
- re-sign Amadio if possible</div></div>
Seems very risky to trade a top 6 forward like Karlsson considering Stone, Hertl, and Eichel are all perpetually injured. I think Theodore trade would make the most sense and try and pick up a solid middle six forward on a decent contract and then re-sign Marchy.
As a Sharks fan, Stephenson, Marchessault, and Amadio are all guys I think the Sharks should target in Free Agency, but for Vegas I think they need to keep that top 6 as intact as possible. No matter what they're losing a lot of depth and don't have many assets to spend anymore to get a good replacement guy if someone does in fact go onto LTIR
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 hours ago
Thread:
Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roperttos</b></div><div>If Flyers want to clear cap they can just buyout Atkinson, which saves them assets or they trade someone like Konecny or Laughton. They are also allowed to be 10% above the cap during the offseason.
Altough entering the league sooner doesn't necessarily mean that a player has a higher ceiling, but entering the league later isn't exactly a good sign either.</div></div>
22 is pretty typical for defense prospects to enter the NHL, especially those coming from overseas. He's pretty much on schedule from when they thought he'd be in the NHL if he plays 20+ games this year
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 hours ago
Thread:
Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roperttos</b></div><div>It also makes absolutely no sense from the Flyers perspective either.
They have no reason to trade York or clear cap with dumping Atkinson.
I'm gonna have to disagree on the Shakir has higher ceiling than York part because York's ceiling is a 1st pair D. Shakir hasn't even made the Sharks roster and is only a year younger.</div></div>
I agree it doesn't make sense from the flyers perspective.
they absolutely should dump Atkinson. They are literally at the cap for next year (with about 6 mil to play with if Ellis is done for sure). With Michkov coming over and only 5 legit NHL d-men signed, they'll need to make some moves. I'm guessing they're going to be a bit more competitive with Michkov in the lineup
And typically projected ceiling is based on their playstyle and past production at lower levels when they're this young. Just because someone enters the league sooner than another player it doesn't mean they have a higher ceiling. Shakir may very well not adjust to the NHL level (although his handful of games he looked great), but he also may very well be a first pairing guy.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 hours ago
Thread:
allons-y
MTL fans trying to dump Anderson in literally every ACGM while saying "he's actually way better than people think" always makes me laugh
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 hours ago
Thread:
Marner Waives
This is absolutely awful for the Sharks. Ferraro and Zetterlund should be untouchable with Hertl now gone. They're young leaders on this team. Marner would waive with the condition to be dealt at the deadline and good luck getting another U25 top six forward, 25 yo middle/top pairing + an unprotected 1st for him.
Crazy that there's leafs fans who are saying this is bad for them. I'm guessing they've never actually seen Zetterlund play
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 hours ago
Thread:
Offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roperttos</b></div><div>Flyers aren't trading York and that offer isn't enough to get him anyway in terms of value.</div></div>
Not sure I agree, makes no sense from a Sharks perspective. There's a big dropoff in talent shortly after that 14th overall, Gushchin is an absolute stud, and Shakir is very unproven but has as high, if not slightly higher of a ceiling than York. And then there's Atkinson who would cost around a 3rd/2nd to dump. And the Sharks have way too many LHD to begin with, so OP going out an acquiring two more makes no sense to me
I definitely understand the Flyers would likely have York as borderline untouchable though. But purely based on objective value, I'd definitely say SJ is giving up more
Forum:
Mock-Draft
8 hours ago
Thread:
1rst round with team needs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OfficialGuy</b></div><div>Well I dont see them being strong in prospect at any positions and they would take the best talent available no mather the position they are still in the early rebuilds but dont have much yet. So they would go for talent over what they need in the exact moments. Trevor Connelly would be the perfect fit there and If it wasnt for the off ice bull**** Connelly would be higher. And early second round they rarely make impact players in the league more 3rd to 4th line and Stiga is a spirited player that could bring something good there. SJS love the american development program and they seing their future in it I believe they would have no hesitation taking these guys.</div></div>
I mean that's not true at all. They're widely regarded as one of, if not the best prospect pool in the league. Only to be stronger adding Celebrini.
U23 LWs with Top 6 to Elite level projections are Eklund, Musty, Gushchin, and Bordeleau. U23 LDs in the system with Top Pairing potential include Mukhamadullin and Cagnoni. Middle pairing projected LDs include Thrun, Furlong, possibly Pulli. Centers with Elite to top 6 projections would be Smith and Soon to be Celebrini. Middle Six to 2nd line projected Centers include Bystedt, Lund, and Edstrom.
The Right side of the ice has some exciting guys but no real projected top line/top pairing guys. Halttunen is looking maybe to be a really solid 2nd line RW sniper and Rimashevsky is kind of a wild card prospect who could surprise some people. but other than that there's not much there, whereas, as I said, the left side is VERY deep
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 hours ago
Thread:
A Scouts Proposed Marner Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RecycleShark</b></div><div>Hard to flip him since we don't have a retention spot left.</div></div>
Look at what it costs for a 3rd party to retain. its all 4th-6th rounders. It's not hard
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 4:27 p.m.
Thread:
A Scouts Proposed Marner Trade
I absolutely hate the idea of trading Mario after trading Hertl. This team needs a leader as they rebuild and you have to be careful about trading all those guys away.
But this is pretty fair. Marner would obviously be flipped at the deadline and possibly get back more that what they're giving up here, while helping Celebrini develop.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 2:51 p.m.
Thread:
Celebrini rookie year
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jph812</b></div><div>What homegrown guys would you want to get that spot? I am thinking the sharks are going to be bad again next year so I don't know if they want to give some of those guys some more AHL time</div></div>
Gushchin and Bordeleau are ready. I think Smith, Cardwell, and Musty will seriously push for a spot. And Same goes for Shakir on D
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 2:41 p.m.
Thread:
Celebrini rookie year
I like some of the signings but Andersson will likely cost more, but also makes no sense from the Sharks perspective to spend future assets to get a guy who won't help in the long term. they could wait one more year to see if he hits free agency to try and pick him up.
I think DeMelo gets more. I like Amadio but not with all the other signings. Amadio, Brossoit, Duchene (if Cooch is healthy), Kubel are just unnecessary signings that homegrown guys deserve those spots WAY more.
Forum:
Mock-Draft
Fri. at 2:08 p.m.
Thread:
1rst round with team needs
The only thing the Sharks don't need is LWs and you have them taking two at 14 and 33 lol. RW and RHD are by far the biggest needs.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 12:37 p.m.
Thread:
Who deserves to be back
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Caniac555</b></div><div>Respectfully - this was not the total point of the post but appreciate your comment (except for the condescending’lol’).
If MG or MF were worth a 1st, they should have been traded. Ok take Sasha out and get nothing for him. Or the Canes can just move Necas elsewhere. Seems like a top 6 RFA who wouldn’t be someone the Sharks could get on the market.</div></div>
Because they don't want to trade them? That's why they weren't dealt.
Granlund had 60 points in 69 games on the worst offensive team in like 20 years. He'd easily get a first at this years deadline if they don't look to extend him.
Ferraro is literally the heartbeat of this team and as I said, his high price is due mostly to his leadership and what he means to the team. Objectively he's MAYBE be worth a 1st, but they avsolutely don't want to move him, therefore he costs a lot more.
Again, this isn't some late 1st rounder, this is 14th overall.
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