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Created by: The_tarasenkshow91
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Dec. 21, 2022
Published: Dec. 21, 2022
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1. Will do a follow-up post that considers how the players will fit into the roster under the salary cap in upcoming years
2. Would try to get double retention on Murphy (Chicago picks up 1.5, Anaheim picks up 1.45)
perhaps via Anaheim or Arizona. Domi should be easier to get a double retain on.
Free Agent Signings
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Knies, Matthew
3$925,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Domi, Max ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. Murphy, Connor ($2,200,000 retained)
  3. 2023 7th round pick (CHI)
Additional Details:
Max Domi can score, provides grit, and his advanced stats in the playoffs last year suggest that he wasn't a liability, although he seemingly played sheltered offensive minutes (10 min overall). He could play on our third line, and occasionally jump up with JT and Marner if that works out.

Murphy's name isn't on the trading block although the Blackhawks seem open to trading anybody who won't compromise their future, and will help them add to it. Murphy doesn't have great playoff experience but he is a steady, stay at home defender and should play a steady, stay at home type game. I'm hoping our d core can replicate Pittsburgh's from 2016-2017. I just want them to get the job done and get the puck up to the forwards.
CHI
  1. Král, Filip
  2. Voit, Ty
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
I don't know what Chicago is looking for prospect-wise, nor the market for the players coming our way. It may take a first and a higher end prospect like Niemela.
2.
TOR
  1. Anderson, Josh ($2,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
Again, I think that double retention (i.e 1.2 mill by Montreal, 2 mill by Anaheim/San Jose/Arizona) only caveat would be that I'm not sure if these teams would be open to retaining for a 5 year contract. For Montreal, they're not ready to compete right now, and Anderson can help them get assets for when they're ready to compete. I think power forwards that play his style tend to run out of steam quicker (relative to other players), so it would seem that the Habs should use him as leverage for assets when they're ready to contend. They might like having him around to protect their younger players though - I'm not sure.
3.
TOR
MTL
  1. Benn, Jordie
  2. Engvall, Pierre
  3. Kerfoot, Alexander
Additional Details:
These players would go out to make the cap work, in some form.
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2023
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2024
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2025
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25$82,500,000$82,161,246$212,500$0$338,754
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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LW
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
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C, LW
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
RW
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, LW
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C, RW
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$762,500$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$827,500$827,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
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$2,100,000$2,100,000
RW, C, LW
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$840,630$840,630
LW, RW
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$900,000$900,000
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
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UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$2,200,000$2,200,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
RD
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UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2

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Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:02 p.m.
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Amirov has zero trade value
Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:05 p.m.
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anderson has too many years on his deal for 50% retention.
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Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:13 p.m.
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Lol at domi having gritt and can score.
He's a hit and run artist and he cant score unless he's given prime minutes and top power play time which he wont get in Toronto and he is a gigantic liability and his advanced metrics were awful in Carolina too.
Josh anderson is also pretty much the same.
Neither of these guys helps any contender
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Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Amirov has zero trade value


So does josh anderson
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Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:23 p.m.
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Interesting post, exactly what we DON’T need to do imo. Not one of those players are what we need unsure
Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:37 p.m.
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So you want a power forward with over 13 million of cap retention for two guys who'll properly never be regular top 6 NHL'ers
Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:37 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
So does josh anderson


Not according to people who actually know what's happening behind the scenes
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Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Ledge_And_Dairy
Amirov has zero trade value


Yup, that’s my bad. I meant to include Roni Hirvonen, a point a game winger at the wjc last year.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Mental_yuppi
Not according to people who actually know what's happening behind the scenes


They told me amirov is worth 10 firsts
Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:47 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Lol at domi having gritt and can score.
He's a hit and run artist and he cant score unless he's given prime minutes and top power play time which he wont get in Toronto and he is a gigantic liability and his advanced metrics were awful in Carolina too.
Josh anderson is also pretty much the same.

Neither of these guys helps any contender


This is where the eye test comes into play IMO - in a 7 game series against Tampa, I’d prefer to have some grit on my team. Anderson and Domi have both produced in key moments in the past two playoffs which is more than our bottom 6 has offered. I haven’t looked at Domi’s advanced stats beyond corsi and fenwick which were around average.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Mental_yuppi
So you want a power forward with over 13 million of cap retention for two guys who'll properly never be regular top 6 NHL'ers


Juries still out on Robertson, I think a change of scenery could really benefit him.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:56 p.m.
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Quoting: The_tarasenkshow91
This is where the eye test comes into play IMO - in a 7 game series against Tampa, I’d prefer to have some grit on my team. Anderson and Domi have both produced in key moments in the past two playoffs which is more than our bottom 6 has offered. I haven’t looked at Domi’s advanced stats beyond corsi and fenwick which were around average.


Except domi doesnt provide grit, and he had one good game with the kanes and his advanced stats on one of the best teams in the league were middling over a short period at best, and bad at worst. He just sucks.
And josh anderson scores in key playoff situations than so does kerfoot. Anderson isnt even gritty outside of throwing a hit every now and then. He's also abysmal defensivly and has the agility of an ocean liner.
Neither player brings anything of value to the leafs
Dec. 21, 2022 at 5:57 p.m.
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Don't know how collectively Domi, Murphy and Anderson make the Leafs better this year with the subtraction of Keroot, Engvall, Benn and Robertson.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 6:06 p.m.
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No thanks, retention for 5 years just isn't an option.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 6:07 p.m.
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Hawks won't be using a retention slot on Murphy for less than a first, and since it's for 4 years it's going to be more than that
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Dec. 21, 2022 at 6:12 p.m.
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Leafs want nothing to do with Domi. He can't play defense, extremely lazy, and a terrible locker room character
Dec. 21, 2022 at 6:16 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
Except domi doesnt provide grit, and he had one good game with the kanes and his advanced stats on one of the best teams in the league were middling over a short period at best, and bad at worst. He just sucks.
And josh anderson scores in key playoff situations than so does kerfoot. Anderson isnt even gritty outside of throwing a hit every now and then. He's also abysmal defensivly and has the agility of an ocean liner.
Neither player brings anything of value to the leafs


He’s a great skater, and he hits more than anyone on the Leafs. He’s can skate the puck through the neutral zone, and although he can’t do much more than shoot it on net (rather than cut in), but playing with elite offensive players like JT and Marner will compliment his game and theirs. He can skate, forecheck well, and I’m not concerned with his defensive play given how well the rest of the Leafs forwards defend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zyik5mbQhg
Dec. 21, 2022 at 6:18 p.m.
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Hawks decline. Not retaining on Murphy. Return is not good at all.
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Dec. 21, 2022 at 6:19 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Don't know how collectively Domi, Murphy and Anderson make the Leafs better this year with the subtraction of Keroot, Engvall, Benn and Robertson.


Murphy is a top 4 shut down d men, Benn is a 6th-8th dman.
Anderson and Domi add the missing elements to the Leaf’s top 9 and score at similar to better rates than Kerf and Engvall. Only caveat is that Engvall is occasionally used in late game situations to defend leads (in game 3 against Tampa he assisted on mikeyevs empty netter), and I don’t think Anderson and Domi would be trusted to do that.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: The_tarasenkshow91
Murphy is a top 4 shut down d men, Benn is a 6th-8th dman.
Anderson and Domi add the missing elements to the Leaf’s top 9 and score at similar to better rates than Kerf and Engvall. Only caveat is that Engvall is occasionally used in late game situations to defend leads (in game 3 against Tampa he assisted on mikeyevs empty netter), and I don’t think Anderson and Domi would be trusted to do that.


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Murphy is a top 4 shut down d men, Benn is a 6th-8th dman.
Anderson and Domi add the missing elements to the Leaf’s top 9 and score at similar to better rates than Kerf and Engvall. Only caveat is that Engvall is occasionally used in late game situations to defend leads (in game 3 against Tampa he assisted on mikeyevs empty netter), and I don’t think Anderson and Domi would be trusted to do that.


Who does Murphy replace in the Leafs top 6 that makes them better on the right side. Brodie? Holl? Liljegren?
Domi, yea he has been playing some top minutes and he isn't getting that with the Leafs.
Think you brought out Anderson's main fault....he's not defensively responsible at any time certainly his lack of offensive production isn't that good.
But I agree why you, Anderson's value is about 3m, but why are the Leafs paying for it?
Dec. 21, 2022 at 6:23 p.m.
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Quoting: The_tarasenkshow91
He’s a great skater, and he hits more than anyone on the Leafs. He’s can skate the puck through the neutral zone, and although he can’t do much more than shoot it on net (rather than cut in), but playing with elite offensive players like JT and Marner will compliment his game and theirs. He can skate, forecheck well, and I’m not concerned with his defensive play given how well the rest of the Leafs forwards defend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Zyik5mbQhg


he can only skate in a straight line, his agility is none existant and he spends half his time on the ice on his ass because of it. And 90% of his hits are well after the puck is gone and done do anything to actually effect the play at all.
He's not a corner grinder, he's not good in front of the net and he'd be a terrible fit with marner and tavares. He's John Mitchell with a better shot. and if you add a terrible defender to a good defensive team they become a weak spot. He's a horrible fit for the leafs, and any contender.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Who does Murphy replace in the Leafs top 6 that makes them better on the right side. Brodie? Holl? Liljegren?


I think he’s much steadier than Holl.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 6:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Just_A_Guess
No thanks, retention for 5 years just isn't an option.


My worry as well. That’s why I tried to break it up with double retention via multiple teams.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 6:33 p.m.
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Quoting: The_tarasenkshow91
My worry as well. That’s why I tried to break it up with double retention via multiple teams.


I don't think there are very many teams that want to lock up a retention slot for 5 years, that will come at a premium due to duration alone.

Honestly with "reports" that Hughes has turned down large offers, and the overall consensus that Anderson is an oversized paperweight, I just can't see him being moved for another 2-3 seasons unless it's something we can't say no to.

I just can't see him moving anywhere at this point, the sell point and buy point are just too far apart.
Dec. 21, 2022 at 6:34 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
he can only skate in a straight line, his agility is none existant and he spends half his time on the ice on his ass because of it. And 90% of his hits are well after the puck is gone and done do anything to actually effect the play at all.
He's not a corner grinder, he's not good in front of the net and he'd be a terrible fit with marner and tavares. He's John Mitchell with a better shot. and if you add a terrible defender to a good defensive team they become a weak spot. He's a horrible fit for the leafs, and any contender.


I guess we just see different players then. He’s streaky, injury prone , doesn’t have great hands or hockey iq, but he’s a hard working, physical forechecker with a mean streak who can lay the body and lead the leafs in hits. He looked great for Montreal at times in their finals run, and I think more production will come with JT and Marner.
 
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