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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 1 at 4:07 p.m.
Thread: Goaler
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Celtics21</b></div><div>I think we could keep Bussi as a 23rd man on the roster or even bury Husso if we wanted.

It doesn’t impact the ability to secure a top forward at all, but it does impact secondary moves to build depth with more than $2m or less players.

I do think it’s feasible to argue whether the difference between a first and second is worth taking Husso.</div></div>

I believe that in an ideal world, we need 2 top 6 F (one for Jake's spot, maybe Jake himself; the other we have platooned 3rd liners all year) and a top 4 LD. Even if we shed Ullmark's salary in full, I think we cannot target top UFAs in all 3 spots and field a competitive roster.

If we bury Husso, that is more than 3.5m in dead cap. To me, that seems far more likely thank carrying ~5.75m in cap space and 2 roster spots for backup goalies right after signing what appers to be a premier starter.

If you do either of those things, I think Don would need to moneyball 1-2 of those roster spots I mentioned, and even that will be much harder compared to this past offseason when good players had their values depressed by the cap crunch.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 30 at 9:08 p.m.
Thread: Goaler
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LGRWinLA</b></div><div>I would gladly involve a third party to make it work. My initial build had a half retention, but I couldn't get a full roster that way. I know that a true hockey trade would involve so discomfort from both teams, that's just how it works.</div></div>

Some discomfort for Boston's side as things stand would be missing a true top 6 F next year due to lack of cap space, paying 4.75m for a backup, and possibly losing the current heir apparent backup on waivers (his eligibility is done after this season). It makes the team worse in the short term due to cap and possibly in the long term if Bussi could have been a cheap long term backup.

Is that worth Wallinder and a 1st? Possibly, but with some retention it becomes much more palatable because it gives the Bruins more options, even including burying Husso to keep Bussi. 3rd party retaining gets this over the finish line. Maybe Wings and Bruins both send a pick to the retaining team.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 30 at 3:26 p.m.
Thread: Goaler
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LGRWinLA</b></div><div>That's what I'm trying to do. But no Husso no draft picks. That's where the value lies.</div></div>

Obviously you'd need to change things in your ACGM to be cap compliant, but if you took out the 4th rounder, would you consider retaining on Husso for 1 year? Wallinder and a 1st is solid value, but the main reasons to move Ully would be to free up a big chunk of cap space for this offseason and to move up in the 2024 draft. This deal does not do either of those things, but the overall value is better than most proposals I have seen. But maybe some retention on Husso makes it more palatable for the Bs? Maybe you could throw the 4th to another team to do the retention for you. I'd love to see him at 3.25m or less, but that much retention in the offseason probably costs more than a 4th.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 26 at 12:31 p.m.
Thread: Playground
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>Of course Ottawa will be looking to trade Chychrun to a team that would/could extend him, hence not for 1 season``</div></div>

He is a UFA, so you don't have a ton of leverage here. You could grant the team negotiating rights while under contract with you, which could increase the cost, but not by all that much. It depends on how im-demand the player is and how desperate the trading team is to get the player.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>And not all 1sts are equal, it was a 12th OA pick.</div></div>

Honest question: did the teams know that at the time of the trade? I assume they did not, because I though it was a TDL teade and Ottawa was trying to make a last push to get into the playoffs. If that is the case, the fact that it settled at the 12th OA pick is not really relevant in discussing the value of the trade.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xspyrit</b></div><div>Ottawa would only be interested in that offer if they are interested in Merkulov</div></div>

This is fair. If they don't want Merkulov, then he has 0 value. I am not sure they would want him.