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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 8:50 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>After overpaying 3rd liners and 3rd pairing defensemen, that's a bit rich. You could easily save $3M by playing Broberg (he's ready) and another ~$1M defenseman to play on the 3rd pairing.
He's not getting PP time in Edmonton, so that knocks 20 points off his total. Plus he's not getting a Malkin-level center, he's a 3rd liner on a contender so that means McLeod. So he'll score 30-ish points in Edmonton. That's less than Foegele scored, hence the comment that you haven't improved the roster. He also doesn't replace the speed and physicality Foegele brings.
Carrick and Lavoie aren't competing for the same job. Lavoie is a winger. There are lots of 4th line centers out there for cheap that would be better than Carrick. He's not good enough now, why would he be good enough next year?
Desharnais hasn't proven to be able to play top-4. They've tried him there and it hasn't worked out. Do you think he's going to be that much better at 29 than he is at 27? It's hardly logical.
I don't mind keeping Desharnais, but not at that cost or term. Same with Sherwood - he's a 29 year old bottom-6 player, no sane person offers him a 5 year contract.</div></div>
Since when would anyone not suggest Leon IS NOT an elite centre? Actually BETTER than Malkin at this stage. Kind of speechless there. I think one year of Reilly playing with a superior Drastaitl probably means he produces. To suggest he doesn't see PP2 time given the roster is almost as outlandish.
Last time I checked, Carrick can play the wing, so HE DOES compete with Lavoie.
Listen. You can say there is overpaying going on. That is fine. But if the Oilers are going to contender for a Cup, they are going to spend. That is a fact.
Your comments are noted, but again, you have failed to produce a a better solution. I can handle critique. Why I do this. But when that critique lacks any counter proposal to what may work better, I ask..... how valuable is the critique?
What is your solution? Bringing back Brown and signing Kubalik to a show-me deal? Signing a couple bottom.pairing D on the cheap that would be depth on most organizations? A pair that would play maybe 10 minutes a game and cannot play up the line up?
PS. Broberg maybe ready, he may not be. Jury is out for me. I like insurance.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue. at 2:31 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>I don't see any improvements really. Zucker and Smith are old and soft, Carrick isn't a roster regular now so the fact that he's fulltime 4C shows less depth. The defense isn't changed and the goaltending is uncertain. Rodrigue certainly has more upside than Pickard but I'm not sure he's ready for the position just yet.
Giving $10M to a 3rd pairing guy (and paying your 3rd pair $5.25M AAV) is not how you build depth in a cap world.</div></div>
The Oilers simply lack assets and cap space to do much of anything. Would I like to add youth to this group? Absolutely. But that costs either picks or money - neither which the Oilers have.
I am going to disagree on Zucker being "soft". No, he isn't a heavy hitter, but he does have some jam to his game. Older yes. But again, limited cap space to work with.
Reilly...... you tell me where you find a 50 point winger at $1.25 million. Call him what you will. The guy manages to produce.
Carrick..... for the money, I bring him back 100%. Because I am not that sold on Lavoie.
Bottom pairing...... I think you missed how this works long term. Desharnais fit in Edmonton. No reason to let him walk for a cheap plug. He replaces Ceci in a year, which..... frees up cap space.
Comments I get.
The lack of solutions however make the feedback moot.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 6:16 p.m.
Thread:
Leafs Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>Lol absolutely not.</div></div>
Yes. A rare case of I would sooner have Marner.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 6:14 p.m.
Thread:
24-25 redux v3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mikael_Smith</b></div><div>Mainly the Josh Anderson contract, and Marner could fetch more than this IMO. Also in division blockbuster trades are rare.
Also didn’t see it originally, but I can’t see Sammy coming back to Toronto. Wish him the best
I do like the idea of Marner for a physical D, a RHD, a pretty good pick, and a middle/top 6 forward.
Just not sure this package would be enough</div></div>
Fair commentary. But I think the facts remain that freeing up cap space maybe the real value in any deal. I cannot see a trade being made for market value. Not at this stage with 1 year left.
If you go sign and trade, then that changes things.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 6:12 p.m.
Thread:
24-25 redux v3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BorisBagel</b></div><div>Habs are looking for playoff performers not chokers … will 👀 elsewhere</div></div>
You need to male the playoffs. Marner probably does the trick. The rest of the roster once there could be very interesting to watch.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sun. at 6:11 p.m.
Thread:
24-25 redux v3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Steve_321</b></div><div>Leafs fans are operating on another planet. The guy is about to go UFA and has a full NMC and all of the leverage. He will end up walking for nothing if Shanahan shares this viewpoint.</div></div>
Another planet?
🤔🤔🤔
Marner is a lot of things, and of of them is an elite passer....
When the Habs have what looks to be an elite power forward, having an elite passer just might take him to another level.
And I would suggest Xjekah, Barron, plate 1st and a cap dump to make it work is pretty much a walk for nothing kind of deal.
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Armchair-GM
Sun. at 11:52 a.m.
Thread:
24-25 redux v3
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mikael_Smith</b></div><div>Leafs say no.</div></div>
and why?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 29 at 10:47 a.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CringleMcDingleberry</b></div><div>Having closely looked at Berggren and Raymond these past 2 years, Berggren should pull 75-80% AAV compared to Raymond. 950k AAV is a pretty massive undervalue and an insult to his skill level.</div></div>
Came in with that number solely based in his lack of NHL experience. I feel the talent is there..... so much so when constructing this team, I debated if Berggren would be the 2nd line LW......
Quite possible he sees more than $950..... but given that he has played, what 80 games?, how much more does he really get?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 28 at 1:55 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DanielSan92</b></div><div>Realistically, Berggren and Johansson either have to be here or will be on another team. They're not making it through waivers.
I don't think goaltending is the greater issue here. Ned was good before he got here. He's good after he left here. Husso was good before he got here.
The defense is a ****ing abomination. Ed should help. Getting an NHL caliber RHD behind Seider would help even more.</div></div>
🤔🤔🤔
Both Ned and Husso were good for one year before Detroit. Now, Ned as a Pen was quite solid.
Not saying your point about the RD isn't wrong, but short of going after Montour, not sure what is there does anything..... and Montour is gonna be $$$ witha term I don't see aging well.
Rock and a hard place situation.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 28 at 1:50 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DanielSan92</b></div><div>I don't see it either. Yzerman already said in the season closer that while a summer of improvement could change things, he doesn't see anybody outside Berggren and Johansson being a possibility for the NHL roster.</div></div>
Berggren should be there I think.
Really, the last thing to do here is add a contract that is pricey and with term. Anywhere for anyone. At this juncture it makes no sense for the Wings imo.
The team there. The goaltending isn't. And even there, moving assets to improve that right now lacks logic.
Just a strange offseason for the Wings. Need to push the envelope, but doing so doesn't fit at the moment. Almost feels like running it back is the best choice.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 28 at 1:47 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>theleano1</b></div><div>Yeah there's no Value here for Vancouver at all, Garland has been abouslety fantastic this year for us and has driven our "3rd" line all year to be one of the best 3rd lines in the leauge, he's pretty untouchable right unless a perfect offer came along, this Is certainly not that package I have doubts that Holl would even beat out Juulsen on our blue line, the value here is completely out to lunch. Vancouver certainly isn't looking to move him and Garlands never asked out</div></div>
As I said in the trade, the whole thing depends on if anyone wants the marriage to end. It certainly seemed that way.
As for Juulsen, maybe he is a late bloomer, but I am.not sold on him. I think Holl is solid. Not worth the contract (as I said), but neither is Garland.
The point is, if Garland and the Canucks have made up, there is zero reason to entertain anything.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 28 at 1:43 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DanielSan92</b></div><div>He's terrible, but we're not gonna agree on that point so I'll move on to the next... I'd take Holl bought out at $1.1M x 4 over Garland flipped retaining $2.425M x 2.
The four years sucks, yeah. But in years three and four we're likely to see Danielson/Kasper/ASP on the roster at ELC money, with the cap at about $96.6M.</div></div>
Valid point. I mean there is an argument Kasper is there this year- I don't see it, which is why I tried to be inventive.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 28 at 1:35 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DanielSan92</b></div><div>We don't have to fill in the forward units though.
Raymond back. Veleno likely back. I'd re-sign Fischer. That doesn't account for the possibility of Berggren/Kane/Perron returning.
Realistically what cap we'll have left after extending Seider/Raymond and hopefully Kane is going to have to go to the abomination that is our RHD.</div></div>
The RD I leave for the year imo.
Sandin Pellika is closer than some may think (provided he signs of course); Gibson looks good as well - albeit it further out.
What is available on the RD doesn't do much for me honestly. Not sure it moves the needle fornthe Wings either. If the right fir was there, absolutely. Just not sold it is.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 28 at 1:31 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DanielSan92</b></div><div>"One season doesn't define what Holl is."
Ummm, he was **** in Toronto and people were scratching their heads as soon as the contract was announced. This is not "Good player had a bad season".
He's not good. He's getting bought out this season. Likely by Detroit, unless they can find somebody willing to take him without having to throw any compensation their way.</div></div>
Disagree. I am not about to claim Holl was a world beater as a Leaf, but was solid. The media was particularly hard on him..... and was playing more minutes than he should have been which did affect is game.
Playing within his means he is solid. Not great, but solid. Not worth the contract for sure. But in this scenario, neither is Garland frankly. Garland is simply easier to flip with retention than burning cap space on a buyout.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 28 at 1:27 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DanielSan92</b></div><div>Or we could just buy Holl out for peanuts...</div></div>
Looked at that. And although an option, thins out options to fill in the forward units imo.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 28 at 1:26 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Prime_Jimbo</b></div><div>Mikheyev for Holl</div></div>
Another direction to go. Soup has energy. His finishing however is interesting.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 28 at 1:26 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DanielSan92</b></div><div>Nevermind that this gives us:
Raymond - 5' 11" 188 lbs
Debrincat - 5' 8" 180 lbs
Kane - 5' 10" 177 lbs
Fabbri - 6' 1" 185 lbs
Garland - 5' 10" 165 lbs
Nah.</div></div>
I noted the size factor. Agreed. Less than ideal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 28 at 1:25 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DanielSan92</b></div><div>VAN trades a 45-50 point forward for a guy who couldn't even push JEFF PETRY out of a spot.
... That's probably a no.</div></div>
One season doesn't define what Holl is. However, I think everything depends on whether one or both sides want to end the relationship. Holl in Detroit was always a head scratcher. I frankly never saw that fit. Soucy and Holl I think make a good 3rd pairing.
Garland's contract is inflated. Fact.... and that makes a move difficult. Moreover, there are debates on his consistency.
The buy in for the Canucks here is the $1.5 million in cap savings......
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 7:47 p.m.
Thread:
Retool
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>Will have to retain in Markstrom to get that return (IF we can even get close to that for him anymore)
Definitely a HARD NO to the TOR Trade</div></div>
I am a Leafs fan, and that is a abolutely terrible for Calgary.
1. Andersson's contract for what he does is phenomenal. Perhaps one of the best contracts in the NHL right now.
2. Magniapane at $2.9 million would be a steal imo. He is the kind of mucky player the Leafs do need, but....
3. And two picks?🤣
4. if you go waaaaay back in my profile you will find my arguments why Marner never was, never has been or never will be worth $11 million. He is great sure. Not $11 million worth of it.
If I were Conroy, I would find it hard to justify moving Andersson for Marner straight up....... just because of the contracts.
Most fans valuation of Marner is absurd. This is just another case.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 24 at 7:36 p.m.
Thread:
The best trade in a season from each team
How you don't find the deal that brought Gilmour to Toronto as the best in season deal is beyond me.
McCabe? Not even close to be being on the same level.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 21 at 6:08 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Viqsi</b></div><div>I suspect there's a good chance Nylander is kept around for at least a year to see if he truly has found his game; it's not sensible to throw away found money, after all. And I'm not particularly fond of attempting to rely on Forbort, but that's just me - I think the better approach with the blueline is to trade Provorov and pick up a defensively oriented second-pairing LD (say a Dillon or DeMelo or similar).
Otherwise more or less decent.</div></div>
I was very much on the fence with Provorov. Further, if he plays like he did last year, he might be worth more at the deadline than now.
Moving Provorov is certainly an option..... but being only 26, opted to give him some runway here to see what he can do and if he can fit.
As for Forbort..... really a one year stop gap. I really don't think Mateychuk is going to take long to hut the line up. If it isn't Forbort (which is fine), the idea is a vet stay-at-home guy on a one year deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 21 at 3:27 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PensGMwannabe</b></div><div>Smith pouted all season on the Pens. Imagine how he would be on CBJ? Smith has a M-NTC so he would veto the trade anyway.</div></div>
Of you read tye deal, the Jackets are flipping him to Edmonton.
A 3-way deal of sorts.
The Jackets would have absolutely no use for him. That is clear. So, weaponize the cap space and the Jackets move someone they have no room for in Boquist, and turn it into a 2nd.
If Smith pouts in Edmonton, I think his NHL career is done lol. Like Vegas, the Oilers are in Cup conversations these days.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 21 at 2:08 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fil97</b></div><div>no from pit. not retaining on smith.
he only has 1y left we should use all of the cap we have.</div></div>
That is exactly the point..... Smith has ine year left.
The team missed the playoffs. And outside of Smith, locked into a number of contracts long term.
I can appreciate the thought of "win with Sid", but going after UFA's to fill that roster out with more money and term will only cause more long term pain.
In terms of the deal, the Pens have almost nothing in terms of younger or even NHL worthy prospects outside of St. Invary; and even there is he a player that moves the needle?
Moving a 31 year-old expiring contract for a 24 year old RD, for the Pens..... just makes sense to me.
We can agree to diagree here. When it comes to the Pens, there is no grey area. it is either move to get younger or push to win. Not sure there is a middle ground there.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 17 at 7:19 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
Appreciate the solid feedback here folks!
It has definitely given me more insight into the Hawks organization, and what Davidson may do.
Has to be one of the most fruitful threads I have posted on CF! Opinions back with thoughtful analysis. No hate. No trolling. Just awesomeness.
I want to say you folks give Hawks fans a great name! Much respect
Again..... thanks!
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 16 at 2:20 p.m.
Thread:
24-25
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MNBassman</b></div><div>The Wild would be lucky to get a 7th rounder for Gaudreau!
Bertuzzi just creates even more of a logjam of forwards for the Wild! Plus, he sucks!</div></div>
lol. I wouldn't say Bertuzzi sucks, but I don't see how he fits this team..... and honestly; which Bertuzzi are you signing for $5 million? The guy who crapped the bed for the 1st half, or the Bertuzzi that looks like he discovered he is playing for a contract?
IF I were going to dive into the UFA market on the wing (which is just the weirdest place for the Wild.to invest); Bertuzzi just doesn't move the needle enough.
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