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Forum: Armchair-GM3 hours ago

Thread: idk something like this hopefully

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PLDGEY</b></div><div>I think DeBrincat and Fiala were younger, better players without the injury history, but thanks for insight from a WPG fan.

How do you reconcile how WPG fans feel about him, and his poor usage/deployment by the managment?</div></div>

To clarify it is utilization by dinosaur coaches, not management. When Kyle Connor got hurt this season Ehlers, Scheif Villardi was one of the best if not the best line in hockey. Kyle Connor gets healthy and coaches refuse to split him and 55 up. Ehlers despite finally getting his chance and putting up elite results still gets demoted… which I feel was the straw that would make him want to leave. I know I would.

We can’t explain why 81 and 55 always have to play together as their results 5 vs 5 aren’t good… unless they play with Ehlers… then they are.

I assume promises were made to Villardi to sign a show me, well staple you to 55 all year and then go long term this offseason.

Forum: Armchair-GM4 hours ago

Thread: idk something like this hopefully

I’m going to suggest that Friedman doesn’t know jack as we have Perfetti, Lambert, McRoarty, Barlow, Chibrikov that we already need to make room for. Bring in another winger is the last thing we’d need. In fact I think we are probably looking to move Iafello as well.

Kevin Fiala trade to the kings for Faber and 19 oa would be a decent example. Debrincat trades and Dach, although traded at the draft don’t feel like as good of fits.

The analytics and puck transition numbers will be what makes team covet Ehlers. With top line utilization and pp1 usage he easily goes above a point per game.

Maybe a sign and trade a la Matt Tkachuk could also be an option to maximize the return. I would prefer to keep as a rental then take the proposed return.

Forum: Armchair-GM5 hours ago

Thread: HMMMM

Wears an A. 4 years left. Would be an allstar if Morgan Reilly didn’t play for Toronto….

Wouldn’t trade him for both those guys plus. I know you said it was a dream but not even close.

Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago

Thread: Hronek for ehlers

Hronek makes sense for the Jets but there is no chance we add a top prospect to Ehlers to make that happen. A rd with team control would be preferable as there are no guarantees Hronek extends.

Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 8:29 p.m.

Thread: What do Jets fans want the return to be for Ehlers

I WANT the return to be a top 4 RHD with term, ideally a match for Morrisey. So for me Ehlers for Pulock would be a deal.

Iorio and Chesley would be the prospects of interest.

I would suggest 17oa and Iorio would be a contender if we have to settle for a futures package.

Forum: Armchair-GMSun. at 11:58 p.m.

Thread: Isles 24-25

Personally I think Ehlers for Pulock works for both teams. With Pulock playing for the wheat kings and his wife being from Manitoba he may waive to come here.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 23 at 10:52 p.m.

Thread: Targets

Interesting list. Not much overlap from the guys I think we target so it’s always interesting to see other fans’ perspectives.

I think as one of the best defensive teams of the modern area we don’t need an upgrade on D. With the addition on Monahan we are good down the middle too as I really like Names.

If we add any more I’d say it’s a a top 6 winger with size, preferably a rh shot.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 17 at 12:14 a.m.

Thread: Trades

I don’t think the Jets should trade the Habs 2nd as it will have similar value as a late first and there are a number of RHD we can draft there.

Getting a guy for the 4th line doesn’t move the needle for me.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11 at 11:58 p.m.

Thread: Time to sell

As fun as it would be to trade your waiver claim from us back to us, the reality is he wasn’t good enough to make our roster before and he isn’t an upgrade now. Jets pass.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 11 at 11:55 p.m.

Thread: rebuild

Nino signed an extension in season so there is no chance the Jets org would turn around and trade him. We love him in Winnipeg so an easy no.

Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4 at 10:01 p.m.

Thread: finishing touches

The thought of trading Perfetti for Konecny straight up is an easy no from me. He is untouchable and should not be included in any trade proposal.

Forum: Armchair-GMOct. 15, 2023 at 5:30 p.m.

Thread: Does Garland actually work for WPG

Jets plan on being a playoff team so we do likely lose all the UFAs for nothing. It would be Rutger McRoarty or Lambert ahead of Chaz but that is the plan.

We can make Garland work cap wise for Appleton and Stanley. I would have wanted the mid round pick coming to the Jets but not material.

Others posted that they want a RD so they would want DeMelo but there is no chance we move our top pair RHD while we are in the playoff hunt and Van needs to make something happen soon so they can dress a full lineup.

If RHD is the desired return Columbus makes the most sense for Peeke.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 8, 2023 at 8:27 p.m.

Thread: 2024-2025

This Jets fan doesn’t mind those contracts but would try for 5 years instead of 7.

I would swap Villardi and Scheif up front and I think we need to run Bauer instead of DeMelo once Dillon is gone.

Otherwise this continues to be a playoff team that hopes to catch lightning in a bottle. I’m good with that. Will take a long time to rebuild if the returns aren’t there in a trade and nobody is signing as a UFA here unless we overpay significantly.

Forum: Armchair-GMSep. 3, 2023 at 12:45 a.m.

Thread: Updated Opening Night Lines

2 issues I see here.

1) if we trade Dillon this team is pretty soft and that leaves only Lowry to handle the fighting. We need Some guys that can answer the bell.

2) I don’t see the jets selling that low on him while Heinola is waiver exempt another year. He would fetch a 2nd or maybe even a 1st if Chiarot and Savard can get 1sts.

I do think we move him at the deadline and Heinola or Stanley play the 3ld spot to close out the season. I just don’t see it before the season and I would be holding out for a 2nd.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 28, 2023 at 12:34 p.m.

Thread: outside the inside of the box but still in the box

2 first round picks for Necas is too steep for me. The other issue is if we trade Dillon we are such a soft team.

Maybe add Sanheim and 22 for 18 and Schmidt instead?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 25, 2023 at 9:25 p.m.

Thread: The rumours

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pretzelcoatl</b></div><div>Devils decline. Not worth sending Holtz or Casey</div></div>

Rumour is they are the leaders for Helle. If you’re not sending them, who do you think you’d send? When I look at the Devils once Meier signs long term there is no top 6 spot for Holtz and with Hamilton Marino Nemec there is no place for Casey. If not moving them to get one of the top tenders in the league, turning that weakness into a strength what is the plan?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2023 at 4:05 p.m.

Thread: Realistic PLD to LAK Roster

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>doughty99</b></div><div>Villardi will sign a bridge deal because he wants to stay in LA and that’s the only way he fits under the cap. He’s had one good season, which is why the number will be around $3M. If Blake ends up trading for PLD, it will be with the understanding that his payday will come next season when the cap goes up significantly and Kopi’s contract comes off the books.

If PLD is on the market, it’s because he’s forcing WPG’s hand. The Jets aren’t coming from a place of strength and the Kings won’t include Vilardi, Byfield or Spence. They no longer have the prospect depth at RD after trading Faber and Grans.

Iafallo is a 2nd liner or a 3rd liner on a true, top contender. Durzi is a top 4 Dman who can play either side. Kupari is a young 3C with a lot of potential. Calling any of them bottom of the lineup guys isn’t accurate.</div></div>

Bottom half… my bad.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 17, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.

Thread: Realistic PLD to LAK Roster

Neither PLD nor Villardi will sign that cheaply, You could swap Villardi for Kupari in the offer and then the cap and trade likely work. Without that, bottom of the lineup pieces aren’t really what the Jets will be targeting. They’d want rfa’s with 3+ years of team control ideally.

Moore’s partial no trade for sure has Winnipeg on it. PLD in a sign and trade for Villardi+ is the deal imo. Can figure out the appropriate adds based on the other pieces involved.

With Villardi’s injury history he likely wants to go long term to guarantee the money. Kings can’t do that and if they don’t view him as a C they may not want too. Lots of prospects in the pipeline still.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2023 at 10:35 p.m.

Thread: Can Pierre-Luc Dubois work

I think there are additional possibilities that could work even better. One being that in addition to PLD the Jets retain 50% on Helle, or use Chicago connections to get him down to 25% this year with a handshake extension to be signed July 1st with Kopitar’s money. Then with Dubois and Helle locked up long term with sign and trades, could a couple of bigger pieces shake loose? Maybe the Jets add a Stenlund as a rhc with size that pks for the bottom 6?

The question in my view is more of what is LA willing to part with, not if they can make it fit… it fits.

Likely would cost you that 3rd line winger making $3M

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2023 at 12:40 a.m.

Thread: Winnipeg Jets

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ClarkeForHart</b></div><div>Kings wouldn't want PLD, especially for Vilardi who was good offensively and elite defensively. PLD has wanted out of almost every team he's been on.</div></div>

An insider on a Jets message board is saying the Kings are the front runners for PLD and he’ll sign long term there as a sign and trade. Assuming that is a fact and the caphit is something reasonable you wouldn’t do Villardi+ for him?

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 13, 2023 at 12:36 a.m.

Thread: Winnipegs Transformation

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoSeider53</b></div><div>It came out last summer when his wife gave birth to their child, it was mentioned by a few insiders that he wanted to be near home. And since when is LA a legit contender. They're technically still in their rebuild phase.</div></div>

Ok. So it’s the same thing as Trouba signing in Detroit. Not something Helle has ever said, just something others have wondered if it would be the case and then it becomes a “fact”. All I’ve heard Helle say is he wants to sign with a contender to win a cup and has no interest in a rebuild.

I think the Kings with Helle would be contenders but we can agree to disagree on that. The playoffs should have showed the Devils they need an upgrade between the pipes and they are my front runner.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 12, 2023 at 11:05 p.m.

Thread: Winnipegs Transformation

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MoSeider53</b></div><div>Lame offer for Connor Hellebuyck, he wants to play close to his Detroit area home. So he's not signing long term with LA And he's not taking no one year rental. He wants to be traded to a team where he can extend long term and that's not LA. They're technically still rebuilding a little.</div></div>

Hadn’t heard that he wanted to sign near home. Source? All we’ve heard in Winnipeg is he wants to sign with a contender.

I think PLD makes the most sense for the Kings and Helle to the Devils.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2023 at 10:21 p.m.

Thread: A Neutral aggressively tries to make the pens competitive

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyIsMyPassion61</b></div><div>True, But i doubt Dubby gives up the 14 OA for a one year rental. just saying.</div></div>

There’s a good chance it would be even more than just 14oa if you actually wanted him. Buffalo probably gives up 13oa+ so you’d need to beat their offer as their pick is one spot sooner.

The pens prospect cupboard is pretty empty so it’s going to be a pretty long rebuild. Helle can drag any team into the playoffs. Will Sid and Geno have any magic left for once they get there. Kind of owe it to the hockey world to find out.

The one thing he likely learned in TO is that there is no replacement for good goaltending so I would assume addressing that will be a top order of business.

Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 1, 2023 at 10:09 p.m.

Thread: Trade up

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LikeABoss</b></div><div>Good to know, I didn't realize there were charts. I was thinking that Winnipeg only has 5 picks and Toronto only has 3 so they might be looking to add picks.</div></div>

It’s a good thought. We likely add some in trading PLD, Scheif, Helle and others. In a typical year we’d probably be looking to trade back to get more picks but I don’t think we’d go that far. 25-28 is probably as far as we should consider.

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 31, 2023 at 11:32 p.m.

Thread: Trade up

As others have mentioned you can reference free trade value charts like blue bull charts, as an example which in your example has Winnipeg trading away the 18 pick at a value of 17.2 and acquiring 41 at 4.9, 42 at 4.8 and 117 at 1.0 for a total of 10.7.

So unfortunately not even close and an instant reject. Using that chart most trades historically are pretty close to even value going both ways.

So 41 + 42 + 43 + 73 would be the value needed to move up to 18 but, while I’m not opposed to the Jets trading back, that is just way too far as I would still want to pick in the first round. So even if you offered all 3 2nds and a 3rd, the value is there but I’d still pass.

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