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Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 10:25 a.m.
Thread: Imagine if Hextall Didnt Ruin The Team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Haymaker26</b></div><div>And I think that's where my criticisms mostly lie. We can make these ACGMs of "oh, what if Hextall didn't make mistakes" and they undo his bad moves instead of replacing them with good ones. In hindsight, we have the cap space to add to this team, and we'd still have our '24 1st to use for an upgrade if we didn't make the Karlsson deal. The team wouldn't necessarily be better if Hextall didn't screw everything up, but it would have the assets and cap to make additions and be decisively better.</div></div>

That's fair. I think the point of these is just to show where we'd be without his bad moves - even if we didn't make any good follow up moves. It just gives us a rough picture of where we'd be. Undoing his bad moves, in a way, is like a good move too. It's probably difficult to go back and make new moves in the past ya know?

Plus maybe Hextall didn't have to make any moves at all, so they didn't need replaced. If he makes a bad trade, you don't necessarily need to change that trade to a good one, you could just not do the trade at all. If that makes sense haha.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 10:11 a.m.
Thread: Imagine if Hextall Didnt Ruin The Team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NJDevils1317</b></div><div>Yeah, I know sometimes things slip through the media (leaks), and wasn't sure how much is hindsight or if ownership was really forcing his hand. I can't remember at the time why PIT felt they had to move Marino (if it was to pay someone else), and if those corresponding moves were the killers.</div></div>

True that happens - I get what you're saying. Honestly there might have been some leaks, and maybe I just missed it. I know there were rumors that Rutherford leaving was because he wanted to break up the core - but I don't remember there being anything released that said Hextall and ownership clashed at all. But again, there's definitely a possibility that I missed it. There's definitely going to be some hindsight involved - but I do feel like most, if not all, of the moves that Hextall is currently criticized for were also criticized back when they happened. And I do believe Hextall had the authority to make the moves he wanted to make - but maybe that's just my personal belief.

As for Marino I'm pretty sure your guess is correct. I think the only reason he was moved is because they traded Matheson for Petry. So he was basically a cap casualty at that point, one they caused themselves
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 9:39 a.m.
Thread: Imagine if Hextall Didnt Ruin The Team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Haymaker26</b></div><div>Let's be real, do you really think this team is an improvement over what we have now?
Lafferty is a 4th liner at best, and both he and Blueger are seeing much less ice time in the playoffs. Marino's defense was much better last season than this one. Trocheck had 10 more points centering mostly Panarin and Lafreniere than Malkin had centering mostly Smith and an injured Rakell. Trocheck isn't coming close to 67 points with wingers like Malkin had for most of the season. Replacing Geno with Vince would be a downgrade.
The team's depth is still suspect, and in hindsight the only guys Hextall shipped out who I particularly think make the team better are McCann and Matheson.</div></div>

Outside of the Malkin/Trocheck swap - I do think it's a better team. If we're correcting Hextall's mistakes, then we can also remove Carter's contract too which would give like 7mil to add another forward to help with depth
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 9 at 3:57 p.m.
Thread: I killed a man in 2015
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pensfan03eee</b></div><div>I think going into this year a big thing is going to be getting production out of young players, if it doesn’t work I can see us taking advantage of our cap flexibility to trade for another player or possibly sign a free agent</div></div>

Sure I agree, and I'm not against playing some young guys. But you can still sign another defenseman and another winger and have room for Poulin, Puustinen, Ponomarev, and St Ivany/POJ in the starting lineup. I'm just not sure we have the luxury of taking a year off and spending money/trading next offseason when everyone is a year older. Also, I think part of the value of playing young guys is that you get to spend money elsewhere to make the team around them better.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 9 at 9:23 a.m.
Thread: Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TMLBRIAN</b></div><div>It's on the weaker side of returns, since POJ won't have much value. BUT Marner has a full no move clause, so he would be in control of his fate, which lowers the value.

2025 1st + 2024 2nd + Prospect (I would prefer a different piece than POJ but Pits doesn't have much going on on the prospect front... So Maybe 2026 2nd?) + All that cap space.

I would consider it from the Leafs side. Marner would need to come with an 8 year extension.

I still think Pittsburgh's best play is to trade Crosby and go full rebuild... I know that's blasphemy to most people but it's their best move.</div></div>

The issue with going full rebuild, as you touched on with Marner, is the NMCs. Even if the Pens wanted to go full rebuild, which I can understand both sides, it would require most or all of Crosby/Malkin/Letang/Karlsson/Rust to come together and waive their NMCs