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Forum: Armchair-GM21 hours ago
Thread: Marner Stays to Finish Out Contract
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JackAce91</b></div><div>Not a leafs fan. Just saying that it isn't a wise move to let one of your top 3 most valuable assets leave for nothing. Look at Calgary for example. They let Johnny Hockey walk after he put up 115 points and they never recovered. Pietrangelo leaving the Blues, Panarin and Bobrovsky leaving CBJ. If you aren't sure you'll be able to resign a high end player, a team needs to be able to recoup something for him. A player with trade value like Marner can help kickstart a retool by trading for younger players or established player that otherwise won't hit free agency. Kinda like what the Jets did with PLD. That was a player that wasn't going to resign, so they traded him for a very good top 6 forward in Vilardi, very good middle-6 guy in Iafallo, plus a couple other assets. Marner has plenty more value, even with his high cap hit (which a 3rd team helping retain is becoming very common) and a NMC.</div></div>

1 year of rental Marner at almost 11 million likely does not have as much value as RFA PLD last summer, and that trade was panned as an overpay by LA.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 9:01 p.m.
Thread: D List
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>i find it kinda crazy that canes fans would rather hang onto orlov on this contract than move it for nothing, resign guentzel and try and find a cheaper d core option. This makes perfect sense for me (tho i dont think pesce is back), but is constnatly rejected by them.

Im intrigued what blues fans think of moving that faulk contract. he might be worth something with retention, but i agree that his value is not strong at 6.5m</div></div>

They had the luxury of having a 7 million dollar D man on the third pair this year. With Nikishin coming next year and Slavin likely being re-signed, they can take a cheap one year LD rather than sign someone long term who would not have as many minutes as either of those two.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 10:23 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 11:23 p.m.
Thread: The rebuilds done
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Campabee</b></div><div>LMFAO, on what planet do you seriously think any of those trades are possible?! Teams don't give up top 6 C's or top 4 RHD for middle 6 W's and no team is downgrading their W to help the Canes improve theirs. The best you are going to get is a futures package that allows you to free up cap space for a potential FA signing or a hockey trade that allows you to bolster another position like Matheson for Necas. You aren't going to get multiple top assets for a guy who 1. His own team doesn't believe is a top 6 center 2. Disappears in the playoffs 3. Can't play defense against timbits players.</div></div>

Then the Canes keep Necas? I feel like the implication at least in a couple of those scenarios is Necas packaged with a first/prospect, but the Canes have 0 incentive to trade Necas for a collection of pieces that don't fill a need.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 9 at 1:08 p.m.
Thread: vancouver
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>The_Rocket</b></div><div>maybe but i dont think that contract gets moved without either adding sweetners to it or taking salary back.

this reduces the commitment from 6 years to 2 years for carolina. its pretty obvious kotkaniemi is on the outside right now</div></div>

Then they buy him out with a cap penalty of 835k/year. The cap commitment for 6 or 2 years won't matter, the biggest cap crunch is this coming offseason - if they can get through it with KK on the roster (which I believe is the goal but may not ultimately be possible), then they would prefer to have him. As you pointed out above he is younger and a center, he still has a lot of time to turn it around.

To that end, he's still 23 so the 1/3 buyout is available next offseason as well. I could see a team taking him on with a late pick and trying to get him to work, to then buy him out next offseason for even less against the cap - again, only if the Canes are unable to keep everyone they want this summer.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 9 at 10:45 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 9 at 10:43 a.m.