if they want to tank

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Created by: Leahyl29

Team: 2024-25 St. Louis Blues

Initial Creation Date: May 16, 2024

Published: May 16, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Trades: All these seems very possible if they truly commit to a rebuild. ( I don't think they will but still a fun exercise)

UFAs :
Stolarz is a safe option to help Hofer transition into the starter role. No reason to have Zherenko up as well with Hofer.
I don't want Kapanen back either but if they want to tank, another year at a Mil wouldn't hurt anything.

Stenlund: Fun 4th liner on a prove it deal.

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Alexandrov, Nikita	1	$850,000
Ellis, Colten	1	$850,000
Laferrière, Mathias	1	$850,000
Skinner, Hunter	1	$850,000
Washkurak, Keean	1	$850,000
Perunovich, Scott	2	$1,000,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Stolarz, Anthony	1	$1,500,000
Kapanen, Kasperi	1	$1,000,000
Stenlund, Kevin	1	$1,500,000

Trades

STL

Stramel, Charlie [Reserve List]
2024 1st round pick (MIN)

Additional Details:

don't worry too much on the team I picked/prospect it's more so I just want a 2024 1st and A/B level prospect.

MIN

Buchnevich, Pavel

Additional Details:

I wouldn't go longer than five years on an extension offer. If he wants more years, then trade him.

STL

2024 3rd round pick (DET)
2025 3rd round pick (DET)

DET

Saad, Brandon

Additional Details:

Any team that wants to be competitive next year should consider trading for this guy. Auto 20 goals and defensively responsible. perfect depth winger.

STL

Heimosalmi, Aleksi
2024 1st round pick (CAR)
2024 3rd round pick (CAR)

Additional Details:

don't worry too much on the prospect. idk anything about prospects. just want a 1st and a good prospect back. not sure how they make the cap work but it would be fun to see Binner on Carolina.

CAR

Binnington, Jordan

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This trade would hurt the most just personally as a fan but if they truly want to tank it has to happen. He's way better than ppl give him credit for.

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
21	$83,500,000	$62,640,595	$0	$492,500	$20,859,405

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Neighbours, Jake $835,833$835,833 LW, RW RFA - 1	Thomas, Robert $8,125,000$8,125,000 C, RW UFA - 7	Kyrou, Jordan $8,125,000$8,125,000 RW UFA - 7
Bolduc, Zachary $863,333$863,333 ($412,500$412K) LW RFA - 2	Schenn, Brayden $6,500,000$6,500,000 C, LW NTC UFA - 4	Sylvegård, Marcus $870,000$870,000 ($80,000$80K) RW, LW RFA - 1
Toropchenko, Alexey $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW RFA - 1	Hayes, Kevin $3,571,429$3,571,429 C M-NTC UFA - 2	Kapanen, Kasperi $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 1
Walker, Nathan $775,000$775,000 LW UFA - 2	Stenlund, Kevin $1,500,000$1,500,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Alexandrov, Nikita $850,000$850,000 C RFA

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Leddy, Nick $4,000,000$4,000,000 LD NTC UFA - 2	Parayko, Colton $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 6	Hofer, Joel $775,000$775,000 G RFA - 1
Perunovich, Scott $1,000,000$1,000,000 LD RFA - 1	Faulk, Justin $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 3	Stolarz, Anthony $1,500,000$1,500,000 G UFA - 2
Krug, Torey $6,500,000$6,500,000 LD NTC UFA - 3	Kessel, Matthew $800,000$800,000 RD RFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Tucker, Tyler $800,000$800,000 LD/RD RFA - 1		Sundqvist, Oskar $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, C UFA - 2

May 16 at 9:47 p.m.

HolyJumpin81

Joined: Feb. 2021

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If they were to tank I agree that these guys make the most sense. Maybe doing like a Krug trade w retention too if possible? Ik that contract is virtually unmovable but....

May 16 at 10:00 p.m.

Huge_Caniac_Abe_Lincoln

On the Rod Meal Plan

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Binner is a good goalie but also not such an upgrade on Andersen that the Canes should spend their 1st and send a prospect, doubly so since he makes more than the two current goalies on the Canes combined

May 16 at 10:55 p.m.

mokumboi

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They don't. And it's very not necessary to the point of being a terrible idea. And the franchise can't afford it anyway.

May 16 at 10:56 p.m.

ecupirate07

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Not touching Binnington, he is bad.

May 17 at 4:35 a.m.

Mhpatb03

Hnswe0345

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Quoting: ecupirate07

Not touching Binnington, he is bad.

He’s objectively way better than any goalie on Carolina. Masterclass performance by Andersen tonight btw. You’d be lucky to have a goalie half as good as Binnington on your team

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May 17 at 8:08 a.m.

ecupirate07

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Quoting: Mhpatb03

He’s objectively way better than any goalie on Carolina. Masterclass performance by Andersen tonight btw. You’d be lucky to have a goalie half as good as Binnington on your team

Objectively? You sure? Subjectively, maybe based on whatever you are pushing

May 17 at 9:09 a.m.

Mhpatb03

Hnswe0345

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Quoting: ecupirate07

Objectively? You sure? Subjectively, maybe based on whatever you are pushing

Binnington has a better GSAx (top 3 in the NHL) & save percentage even though he has one of the worst defenses in the NHL in front of him. Now let’s see you explain why he is “bad”.

May 17 at 11:46 a.m.

Leahyl29

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Leahyl29

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Quoting: mokumboi

They don't. And it's very not necessary to the point of being a terrible idea. And the franchise can't afford it anyway.

Yea I know, key word is “IF”

Imo we need to. This team is not competing for anything within the next 2-3 years. Bottom 5 in the majority of the important 5v5 stats.

May 17 at 12:57 p.m.

mokumboi

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Quoting: Leahyl29

Yea I know, key word is “IF”

Imo we need to. This team is not competing for anything within the next 2-3 years. Bottom 5 in the majority of the important 5v5 stats.

The conceptnof punting the primes of Thomas and Kyrou is stupid beyond belief. And all these Blues fans clamoring for it would probably abandon ship a year in anyway. It's nonsense. And financially unfeasible. And goes against the ethos of the organization, for better or worse.

Where was Vancouver last season? Things can change fast and this team is not so far off as people love to pretend.

Jun. 12 at 11:23 p.m.

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Leahyl29

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Leahyl29

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Quoting: mokumboi

I love your optimism.

You can trade Binner and Buch and be fine. Ik you think you know everything known to man but believe it or not it’s possible to bottom out for a year and be back into contention for a wild card spot. You suggesting I’m “wasting Thomas and Kyrou prime” is a joke quite frankly. Hofers contract suggests that after this year he’s the guy. He should be ready after next year for number 1 starts. Also did you go to a game this past year lol… I’m a STH the whole upper bowl was filled every game. “Can’t afford it” … my ass haha

Jun. 13 at 10:13 a.m.

#11

mokumboi

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Quoting: Leahyl29

Last season was not a tank, though. And I am not 100% against trading certain guys, but I sure as hell am not interested in handing Buch to a rival.

And when was the last time a team only "bottomed out" for one season? It's simply not necessary. Stick to the plan.

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