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Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 12:16 p.m.

Thread: Ranking goalie tandems after day 1 of free agency

If it's just the goalies, Blackwood/Vanecek should be higher, same with Husso/Lyon/Talbot.

Errson/Fedotov, Wolf/Vladar need to drop slightly.

Storlarz/Woll need to drop significantly.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 11:25 p.m.

Thread: Thats it

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>colby</b></div><div>my point more was a 2LD should have gotten a lot more then a mid 3rd and a 33 yearold aging Vet who would be a 3RD on any playoff team. hes only slightly cheaper so cap doesnt really mean much and the 1 extra year of control is good but Id imagine if im looking for a deal i sure as **** would rather wait it out a bit then move on and get a significantly less value package</div></div>

Jensen was a second pair RD on a playoff team.

This deal was probably finalized awhile ago and the teams waited for the signing bonuses to clear ($2M for Jensen, $1M for Chych. Ottawa saves a $1M real money). If there was a better deal available, Ottawa would have already taken it.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 9:53 p.m.

Thread: Taking Advantage of Colorados Cap Situation

The team JUST signed Lilly to that. It's not being moved.

And the Leafs have bigger cap issues than the Avs.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 9:49 p.m.

Thread: Pinto

Ottawa doesn't have the cap space to take Pageau.
Ottawa doesn't have the cap space to take Pageau.
Ottawa doesn't have the cap space to take Pageau.
Ottawa doesn't have the cap space to take Pageau.
Ottawa doesn't have the cap space to take Pageau.
Ottawa doesn't have the cap space to take Pageau.
Ottawa doesn't have the cap space to take Pageau.
Ottawa doesn't have the cap space to take Pageau.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 9:47 p.m.

Thread: Pray for us

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Bruce said 5 x 5</div></div>

That's fine then. Once Joseph moves it's a done deal.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 9:17 p.m.

Thread: Pray for us

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>csick</b></div><div>Mittelstadt was way more ufa years.

Pinto can either get:

1 x 3
2 x 3.5
5 x 5</div></div>

Any of these are fine by me. Pinto is allegedly asking for more though.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 9:13 p.m.

Thread: Thats it

Jensen is a fine return. He has more defensive awareness than Chych, plays the right side and is signed for 2 years at a decent cap hit.

Ottawa already has Sanderson and Chabot on the left and to QB the powerplay. Chych was never going to get the money he deserves playing in Ottawa with these two signed long term.

I personally would have preferred the team to move on from Chabot instead, but it is what it is.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 9:06 p.m.

Thread: Pray for us

I think 6.5 is too rich for Pinto. He's a middle six center at most.

Look what Mittelstadt got, that's the most I'd personally pay for Pinto. ($5.75M)

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 7:41 p.m.

Thread: Pray for us

expect Pinto (or Norris is a GM is willing to gamble on him) to be gone, but expect a roster player back for him.
Things aren't as dire as they look.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 7:39 p.m.

Thread: Post most of free agency

Ottawa has no room for Kulak. Any trade with Ottawa is dollar in, dollar out and you have Hammer and Joseph to choose for those dollars if it isn't a pure hockey trade.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 6:13 p.m.

Thread: sens now

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mithos</b></div><div>this is a bottom 15 team, after Norris gets injured in the first 10 games, a bottom 10 team</div></div>

They'll be challenging for a playoff spot. Not everyone is going to take a step back like last year.
Better Defense and goaltending than Leafs, Sabres, Red Wings & Canadiens.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 5:16 p.m.

Thread: Speed Up Rebuild Mark 5

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sk540</b></div><div>Not a bad point, I though they wanted to move on anyway. With Sanderson, Zub, Jensen now, JBD, and Thomson, that's not a bad corps - and still some decent FA's out there.

Was just a thought tho.</div></div>

Thomas is going to Europe and never coming back.
Ottawa is capped out with $4.4M remaining which is either going to Pinto, or who the team is getting for Pinto.

Left side next year (unless a trade brings someone in) Sanderson, Chabot, Kleven then.... Davies, who they just signed with Hamara, Donovan, Sebrango in the minors and that's it. They're now light on the Left, so trading any of these players means the team needs to take a LD back.

Edit: it wasn't a bad thought. It's what I wanted the Senators to do (and keep Chych, moving him at the deadline) but with Chabot's NTC kicking in, he's not moving.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:44 p.m.

Thread: Presumably last ACGM post

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:30 p.m.

Thread: Speed Up Rebuild Mark 5

Now that the Senators have moved off of Chychrun, they're not moving Chabot without getting a top 4 LD back. Doesn't have to be as good as Chabot, but they are not creating a hole in their line-up for pieces they don't need.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:24 p.m.

Thread: Finishing touches

Senators aren't buying Eller. If Penguins sweeten, maybe, but even then.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:04 p.m.

Thread: Teams that have room for Marner after day 1

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AmeriCanadian</b></div><div>Can't speak for the other teams, but Detroit's cap space is gonna get dry real quick between Seider, Raymond, Berggren, and Veleno all needing new contracts</div></div>

Forgot about that. I didn't do Seattle because of Beniers too.

However, if they were clearing for Stamkos, getting TO to retain 3M would still slide him under, but as I said in the additional details, I don't think it's a proper destination unless he says "Detroit only"

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 4:00 p.m.

Thread: Last rumour

Ottawa takes this and runs.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 3:59 p.m.

Thread: Seems so simple

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Beargold</b></div><div>Too true. Once the mad rush is over we'll likely see something like this happen, but I could see Joseph being gone for nothing after how Staios traded Chych and Tarasenko.</div></div>

Chych return was value in, value out. LD Offensive D (there are many of these) for a defensive RD with term (fewer of these) and a pick. I like the trade. Fills a glaring hole now.
Tarasenko had trade protection. I also see him low key coming back to the Senators again if they move off of Norris. Still a FA for all of his value.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 3:31 p.m.

Thread: Seems so simple

Every team is now saying, 'why trade for him when we can get this guy for free.' Once free agency ends, and teams find themselves with holes because they missed out on players, that is when Joseph is going to be traded.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 3:28 p.m.

Thread: Sources tell me this is happening

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Beargold</b></div><div>Gotta think this isn't a serious proposal here based on the description.

Also, deltago , they traded the 2027 1st which leaves the '25 and '26. Unless they edited the trade, of course.;</div></div>

Nope. I am idiot forgetting the draft just happened and Cap friendly bumped up the picks.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 3:27 p.m.

Thread: opener

Ok Leaf fans, you need to start working WITH Kampf in your ACGMs. No team, not a single one, is taking him without a sweetener or retention or both. And no, Abruzzese isn't a sweetener. Neither is Robertson.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 3:24 p.m.

Thread: Michkov and Pinto

That's what a Pinto return looks like. You can probably drop the second to a third.

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 3:22 p.m.

Thread: Sources tell me this is happening

Source?
Is the pick protected? Probably can't be because of their forfeit, only if they forfeit '25 pick

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 2:59 p.m.

Thread: finishing touches

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>newman23</b></div><div>well he requested a trade, so...</div></div>

doesn't mean this is the return

Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 2:54 p.m.

Thread: Pinto and Konecny trades

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Girouxsmouthguard</b></div><div>You think the Sens would have any interest in Frost?

And I wonder if Michkov coming over would entice Pinto to want to come here in a trade</div></div>

I think the Senators would Value Laughton more than Frost. It's one or the other.
Pinto really doesn't have a say. All he can say is he isn't signing and Senators shop him to whoever is interested.

Pinto caps out as a middle 6 center, so he'll push Michkov for playing time which would be a good thing for the Flyers and they'd have a future center depth of Michkov - Pinto/Frost - whoever. Not bad. Maybe improve it by moving on from Frost, who knows. Pinto is also a face off specialist, so they can protect the likes of Frost & Michkov on defensive draws.

The more I think about it, the more I think it's a good fit for Philly. If a suitable trade can be worked out.

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