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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 12:13 p.m.
Thread:
Has the Stamkos Era Ended
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shanesaw9</b></div><div>So the thing is, Stamkos could just stay in TB $7.8M and would take home the same amount after taxes. Why would he leave, why would TB let him go if $7.8M is all it takes to match the next best offer on the market?</div></div>
Probably because TBL can't even afford him at $7.8mil aav. I don't think overall salary will be Stamkos' main focus though (obviously there will be a base line amount that would need to be met), but term will be more his focus. If a team offers him 6-7 years (until he turns 40-41, similar to Letang's extension), he will prioritize that, even at a reduced salary ($5mil-$6mil range)
The answer probably lies in the middle somewhere, He'll probably take a 5 year deal (until age 39) anywhere between $7mil and $9.5mil depending on the team offering it ($7mil range for tax free state teams like Tampa, Vegas, etc. and $9.5mil range for like Canadian teams like Toronto, Montreal, etc.)
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Armchair-GM
Yesterday at 11:17 a.m.
Thread:
if Marner wont waive he needs someone to protect him
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>my_name_is_Fil</b></div><div>i can see kova going for a 3rd and a 4th. not much less than that
hes a large, young, rhd, on a good cap hit. you dont dump those on division rivals for a 11% chance of having an nhl play in the next 6 years for us.</div></div>
Kovacevic is always a guy being traded for on here lol from A BUNCH of different team fan bases... It's starting to make me think MTL should be able to get a serious overpay if he were realistically available lol
I guess it makes sense. Kovacevic is on a dirt-cheap contract, has solid analytics on a poor defensive team, is 6'5'' playing an "in-demand" position (RD), and can fight if needed. There's a lot to like. Perhaps this is all the more reason to keep him.
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 3:15 p.m.
Thread:
If MTL get lucky and win Celebrini sweepstakes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>I think Utah should shoot for a scenario that fell into Vegas lap of marchassault and smith basically just being offered up for nothing, change of scenery/change of cap hits or whatever it was. Couple of gifts, similar scenario is out there with the cap and assets they have. Tkachuk/chabot or a werenski/laine or something along those lines, good spot to take on a nasty back up goalie contract also if needed. Hayton/vejimelka/soderstrom along with draftpicks galore and cap for days would be my blockbuster. Try to find that early 20s 2c worth hanging a 8 year deal on and a number 1 or 1b, rhd or lhd dman to have around a while. Matheson not a bad add by any means, just in more of a bigger swing mode.</div></div>
Agreed, I just don't think a Matheson acquisition for a Crouse package will hinder making any of those moves. Utah will have PLENTY of ammo to make those big swings.
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 2:37 p.m.
Thread:
If MTL get lucky and win Celebrini sweepstakes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Fair enough good argument, same token can be said for a pesce add to Utah or a selling team that some token seconds would be suffice to add what is needed. If Utah swings for a guentzel or Reinhart, possibly a Crouse comes available, just to keep from blocking doan, Guenther, geekie. Will be interesting offseason with that many picks and cap to play with.</div></div>
Yeah Brett Pesce this offseason just screams "overpayment needed to sign", either in salary or/and term. Lots of teams will be trying to sign him, wouldn't surprise me at all that he gets the max 7 years upwards of $7mil aav.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue. at 2:17 p.m.
Thread:
If MTL get lucky and win Celebrini sweepstakes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Birtle34</b></div><div>Utah in a interesting place, where they essentially want to bring the somewhat small nucleus of players to Utah, and add by trading draft picks they won’t have roster spots in the future for established top end defenseman that will slot down some there current defenseman, and possibly move on from Hayton and or vejmelka. Adding matheson doesn’t really do much for them, when they can probably just go buy what they are looking for with cap room. Depends on ufa splash and roster spots, if Crouse would be available, but rather <strong>perfect size term and experience for the kids coming up</strong> internally.</div></div>
You could use the same argument for Matheson. Not to mention Utah would probably prefer using their cap space on higher quality forwards (Marchessault, Toffoli, etc.) than overpaying for the available D market (Someone like Brady Skjei could be looking at upwards of $6mil aav deals...horrible). I don't think it can be understated just how valuable someone like Matheson <strong>at $4.8mil aav</strong> can be.
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 1:59 p.m.
Thread:
If MTL get lucky and win Celebrini sweepstakes
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JokiStan</b></div><div>Stamkos doesn't want Canada he likes USA 🇺🇲</div></div>
Literally nothing indicates that that's remotely true. Didn't Stamkos consider signing with the Leafs in 2016?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Tue. at 12:10 p.m.
Thread:
Move up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FarhanLuigi</b></div><div>What an easy block list. Imagine thinking Jack Quinn is better than Celebrini and Demidov LMAO
while outright denying their own questions at RHD and need to move a forward.
DELUSIONAL FAN BASE
They don’t even realize this kind of commentary while makes it easy to feel tall then you will simply be blocked by everyone and just circle jerking each other. I hope they have a good time in their Buffalo black holes.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>FarhanLuigi</b></div><div>NOT CORRECT AT ALL. An easy excuse for GMS to do nothing and say <em>trading is hard </em>
Calgary and Vancouver have made a number of trades and why Kuzmenko is still trending during the playoffs</div></div>
Wut?..... wth did I just read? lol A bunch of incoherent nonsense.
What does Calgary and Vancouver trades have to do with a proposed top 10 draft trade?!
The irony of your comments of being blocked by everyone is hilarious...see ya!
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 12:02 p.m.
Thread:
Move up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shibbal18</b></div><div>Buffalo would decline at Quinn. Theyd decline at probably 80% of the prospects you'd want. The Sabres have no need to do this. They have a full top 4 and a solid RD prospect developing. They can take a RD at 11 if they want and take their time developing that guy. The idea is nonsensical for Buffalo</div></div>
Agreed. MTL and BUF just aren't good trading partners. Unless it's a straight up hockey trade ("equivalent" player swap), there's really no point. MTL would probably prefer whoever is at #5 overall than then a package of lesser players (relative term here, they would still be blue chip prospects). Habs need star players more than anything else, their prospect cupboard is also full.
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Armchair-GM
Tue. at 11:47 a.m.
Thread:
Move up
Don't see MTL trading down to 11th, just for Jack Quinn. Kid looks alright, would much rather Peterka at this point (where BUF probably declines), but the cost for moving into the top 5 is always insanely high (which is why it never happens).
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 12:52 p.m.
Thread:
Alex Vlasic extension for Guhle
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>I don’t know how much most Habs fans watch Blackhawks games, but Vlasic is really, really good.</div></div>
No one is saying he isn't. And as over-analyzed as Habs players are, Guhle is also really, really good.
Vlasic and Guhle are different types of players too:
Vlasic is very mobile for his size, but he certainly falls in the (very good) stay-at-home category of defensemen. Slight criticism for Vlasic is that he isn't very physical for his size.
Guhle, although not as big as Vlasic, is a far more physical player, a better skater, and has more offensive potential. Fits in the "two-way" Dman category way more than Vlasic. Slight criticism for Guhle is he racks up minor injuries like crazy. Really needs to find a way to be consistently healthy.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 12:08 p.m.
Thread:
Perfetti
Perfetti fits too closely in the same mold as Newhook (1 year younger, but same size / style of play, productivity is similar, both can play Center but should be considered wingers). Would I take him? sure. But I'm not interested in paying the same price that Hughes paid for Newhook, which is what Perfetti would probably cost.
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Armchair-GM
Mon. at 11:39 a.m.
Thread:
Alex Vlasic extension for Guhle
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>YeahRighttt</b></div><div>It’s good that you forgot to but the Vlasic trade in. Saves the trouble of telling you to forget about it.</div></div>
He's talking about the contract extension....
But just to play along... Guhle > Vlasic
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Mon. at 11:35 a.m.
Thread:
Alex Vlasic extension for Guhle
Guhle will get more. I hope he doesn't, but he's has more offensive potential than Vlasic.
My hope is MTL extends Guhle this offseason at somewhere around $5.5mil for 6 years. Any longer (having to buy more UFA years) and the cap hit will likely start pushing close to $7mil aav.
Anything more than 6 x $6mil aav, and it'll start getting a little too rich
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Sat. at 12:58 p.m.
Thread:
Zegras is not coming to MTL please stop
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>I'll offer a different choice. Keep making Zegras trades!
What we should do is stop taking Trades, AGMs, comments, etc that we don't agree with as some sort of attack, that through power of persuasion, will make said action more likely to happen IRL.
Its a fantasy hockey site. If you don't like someone's opinion of a value/trade, move on..... or comment against it! Who cares, as long as its done with respect.</div></div>
Oh the purpose of this thread isn’t to literally ask people to stop posting Zegras trades. It’s mainly aimed at the folks who are trying to justify that Zegras to MTL has a very high likelihood of happening. And at a cheap (or even market value) cost.
Zegras just isn’t worth the asking price imo
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 5:39 p.m.
Thread:
Zegras is not coming to MTL please stop
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>I agree with almost your entire assessment, except for the portion about Dach. I think it's been shown he's not durable enough to be an NHL player, let alone the kind of physical player Anaheim is looking for.
6OA + Mallioux, might be in the ballpark. I think Reinbacher and Mallioux is asking too much, you can't strip out a teams prospect pool of an entire position like that, so if it were Reinbacher, it would be a forward or a pick paired with it.
However, if MTLs not willing to part with an impact piece, Anaheim isn't willing to part with Zegras.</div></div>
Generally speaking, everyone seems to be giving Dach's injury this past season a pass, simply because it was unrelated to any past injuries, and really was just a weird accident. But no doubt if he gets injured again next season, it's over for him. The reputation will be set.
As for his style of play. for the 60 games Dach has played for MTL, he is a very physical player. Excellent along the boards and can move people and claim space in front of the net. He is great in transition and a great skater for his size. As mentioned in my last comment, because of all of Dach's "tools", everyone tends to agree Dach's "ceiling" is higher than Suzuki's which is why Habs fans (and from Habs managements refusal to trade him for PLD) are all in agreement that he's not for sale. Even in a Zegras trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Fri. at 5:29 p.m.
Thread:
Zegras is not coming to MTL please stop
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMDannyB</b></div><div>Can’t lie as a Flyers fan that likes Zegras I would buy those two for him u have plenty of other insane prospects already that I would go get him</div></div>
Dach is an instant no go. Habs are fully committed to him. His injury's over the past 2 years sucked, but they aren't connected in any way, and this years was really just an unlucky freak accident.
And Dach's "ceiling" is pretty universally agreed upon by Habs fans that it's higher than Suzuki's, so everyone is perfectly fine waiting for him to get healthy. Not to mention he showed really good chemistry with Slafkovsky. So yeah, I think every Habs fan would rather roll the dice for Dach's ceiling than Zegras. It would seem Gorton and Hughes agree with this as well, because if they refused to include Dach in a PLD trade, I don't see how that would change for Zegras.
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Armchair-GM
Fri. at 11:41 a.m.
Thread:
Calgary starting their rebuild
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Bast</b></div><div>Actually no, <strong>FLA is already giving the Flames their 25' pick</strong>. Since FLA had the 24' pick lottery protected from another trade(Tarasenko maybe?).
MTL gets the better of the 2 x 25' picks CGY has, unless CGY's pick is in the top 10(most likely scenario), in which case they get the FLA pick.</div></div>
That hasn't been decided yet. It's the condition from the Tkachuk trade, and its dependent on if FLA make the playoffs next season. If FLA miss the playoffs, they keep their 2025 1st and give CGY their 2026 1st.
EDIT: I said this in another thread yesterday, but if you're a Habs fans just wanting to know what to cheer for with all the confusing conditions of the Monahan trade, do this:
#1 - Cheer for both CGY and FLA to have terrible seasons and miss the playoffs, and hope CGY doesn't get 1st overall. MTL probably ends up with a top 5-10 pick here.
#2 - If FLA are playing well, cheer for CGY to finish with the 11th overall pick after the 2025 draft lottery.
and if you're a CGY fan, cheer for the opposite lol
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 5:13 p.m.
Thread:
Kaiden Guhle
It would take Guhle and MTLs 5th overall pick just to get LA to sniff the deal...
Byfield isn't available...
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 4:52 p.m.
Thread:
Rossi rumors
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>Florida is likely good next year and as you said CGY is likely bottom 10. That would mean the Flames picks belongs to Calgary and Montreal gets Florida's pick</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingMurray</b></div><div>So, let it play out and see where it goes?</div></div>
Also, of all the most likely scenarios (With FLA making the playoffs next year, thus transferring their 2025 1st to CGY), MTL could still get <strong>the better</strong> of CGYs and FLAs 1st rd picks <strong>if the Flames don't have a top 10 pick</strong> LOL Which means MTL could get, at best, an 11th overall pick from CGY.
So, if you're a Habs fans just wanting to know what to cheer for with all the confusing conditions of the Monahan trade, do this:
#1 - Cheer for both CGY and FLA to have terrible seasons and miss the playoffs, and hope CGY doesn't get 1st overall. MTL probably ends up with a top 5-10 pick here.
#2 - If FLA are playing well, cheer for CGY to finish with the 11th overall pick after the 2025 draft lottery.
All this to say, Habs really shouldn't be trading the pick lol
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 4:05 p.m.
Thread:
Rossi rumors
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingMurray</b></div><div>So, let it play out and see where it goes?</div></div>
Absolutely! If I were the Habs, I would consider the pick untouchable for the time being. See how the first half of next season plays out, and if FLA seem to be a lock for the playoffs, only then make the pick open for business. If FLA for whatever reason struggles or has injury problems and might miss the playoffs... Habs keep the pick and enjoy the chaos of CGYs potential top 10 pick being theirs! (With the exception of 1st overall of course)
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 3:39 p.m.
Thread:
Rossi rumors
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>No. If the Calgary 2025 first is in the top 10, as the OP predicts, then Montreal doesn't get it and gets the Florida 2025 first instead, which could be #32 overall.</div></div>
There is a scenario where MTL can get as high as 2nd overall from CGYs pick in 2025. But it's dependant on FLA missing the playoffs next year, which triggers other conditions.
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 3:23 p.m.
Thread:
Rossi rumors
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Gmonwy</b></div><div>Florida is likely good next year and as you said CGY is likely bottom 10. That would mean the Flames picks belongs to Calgary and Montreal gets Florida's pick</div></div>
The most likely scenario for sure. Things only get interesting if FLA miss the playoffs next year... You never know, but it's highly unlikely.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 3:21 p.m.
Thread:
Rossi rumors
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Matt1567</b></div><div>"This will be a Top 10 pick as Flames are in a decline and will be worst off next year"
<strong>The pick is top 10 protected..</strong>.</div></div>
It's not... If MTL keeps CGYs pick (they might get FLAs 1st instead), the only protection for 2025 is 1st overall. MTL could get the 2nd overall pick (best case scenario). There's also a slim chance MTL get CGYs unprotected 2026 1st (highly unlikely).
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 2:15 p.m.
Thread:
If Utah is a buyer this offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GM_SZK</b></div><div>Looks like Utah are selling here? They have way higher aspirations then this...
They might make a handsome offer for the Xhekaj brothers though.</div></div>
Selling? If anything, they are buyers in this case.
Shoot me offers for both Xhekaj's... I'd consider it lol MTL does seem pretty committed to them though...
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Armchair-GM
Apr. 25 at 2:12 p.m.
Thread:
If Utah is a buyer this offseason
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lancebmx</b></div><div>I don't think an offensive defenseman going into his 30s is worth more than a physical two way forward entering his prime. I get Matheson has played quite well while in Montreal and has been a good leader and all that, but his defensive play isn't great and honestly they probably give PP1 to Durzi. Or if they really wanted to, sign Gostisbehere again to play a similar roll. Arizona has alot invested in Crouse and I don't think they want to move him at all.
Also with Barron, just because he is "NHL ready" doesn't mean they are going to trade a very good, very big, young RHD for an older lesser version.
Utah can easily sign a LHD if they want to go that route. They also have Kolyachonok who seems ready, that's 3 LHD on the roster.
It's very difficult to find players like Crouse, teams covet them alot.</div></div>
Literally every ACGM I'm seeing has teams signing freakin Brady Skjei to $6-$7mil aav deals (complete overpayment imo). The free agent market for offensive LD is incredibly weak this year. Which will most certainly lead to teams overpaying for Gostisbehere as well. If MTL make Matheson, with his $4.8mil aav, available for trade, there will absolutely be a highly competitive market for him. I have no idea where the whole "Matheson has defensive issues" thing came from, but it's false. Matheson literally was top 5 in assignment difficulty this year, and MTL defensive struggles were definitely not due to Matheson. Is he a shut down Dman? no, granted. But he's certainly not a bad defender.
You make a fair point for Crouse, and I said as much in my description. Crouse if available would be highly sought after if made available as well. But Matheson is still a much more valuable asset for what both provide at the salaries they make. Paying $4.3mil aav for Crouse I'd say is market value or at most a slight overpayment. Matheson at $4.8mil aav is a bargain.
Lamoureux hasn't proven any more than what Barron did at the same levels... Is he bigger and younger? yes. but to say Barron is a lesser version is false. If anything, there should be injury concerns from Lamoureux. The difference in value is simply due to age and waiver exemption.
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