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Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 6:17 p.m.
Thread: SJ Sign Bertuzzi Roy and then Toffoli Montour to 1 Year 10 Plus Mil Deals
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BDHockey</b></div><div>How does this help the Sharks. With that big of a contract even 50% retained isn't going to be easy to flip.</div></div>
The idea wouldn't be to flip them (Sharks have already maxed out their 3 retention spots for next season). It would be to provide some stability to the team next season with Celebrini, likely Smith Mukhamadullin Musty Graf, maybe Gushchin Thompson all on the roster next season, and give them as good a chance to succeed as possible (by way of further development via NHL minutes), and to do so without re-crippling the team cap-wise in the long-term.

Sharks are in a very interesting position this year with their cap situation and young players. If Grier does the mundane thing and hands out a 3x3 to Kunin and a 3 year deal to Stamkos (whom fans will rejoice at but who won't actually move the needle for the team), it won't be in the best interest of these young players. Sharks don't need their young players to try and carry a weighed-down team. They need a decent team who can support their young players so they can develop.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 4:41 p.m.
Thread: What NHL fans think marner is worth
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>themostleaf33</b></div><div>Well considering Elias Lindholm went for a 20 goal scorer, 1 decent forward and defence prospect, a 1st round pick, and a 4th round pick, he should be worth more then that.</div></div>

Elias Lindholm went for a late 1st (currently 29th), a mediocre prospect in Brzustewicz, and a cap dump. He was also a center making less than 5M and it was at the deadline.

If Marner is traded this summer it'll be after July 1, and it'll probably be something along the lines of a late 1st, a good but cheaper roster player (probably on the brink of UFA himself), and a good but not elite or blue chip prospect.

Problem 1 is most Leafs fans think they're going to get either blue chip/elite prospects, 1sts from lottery teams, or roster pieces that are tied down. I've seen proposals for Brock Faber and Joel Eriksson Ek. I've seen proposals for top 10 picks. I've seen proposals for defenseman that just signed extensions with their teams. None of these pieces are realistic no matter how good you think Marner is, and that's not a slight on Marner, that's just how this works.

Problem 2 is you guys keep sending him to teams that don't want/can't afford him. It's a non starter.

Then you turn around and assume the issue is everyone thinks he has no value. That's not the case, you're just gaslighting yourselves because you guys keep making ****ty proposals.

Final part of it is every other fanbase is so sick of typical Leafs threads and proposals because the raw number of bad offers far outweigh that of any other fanbase (besides Montreal), that they're already walking into the thread standoffish because they assume it's going to suck for their team, and most of the times it does.

You guys do this to yourself.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 2:13 p.m.
Thread: Blues Next Year
I'd walk over hot coals to do both trades. Your signings are abyyyysmal. So very no.


<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>No no, you guys can keep Hayes</div></div>

He's a Canucks fan, brother.


<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jded</b></div><div>Yeah it’s going to cost way more than a 4th to move that contract, let alone return anything</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GeneralLandro</b></div><div>They’d at least have to cough up that 1st, minimum</div></div>


What are you guys on about? He's roughly a 3C who'll get around 40-ish points signed to 2x3.5. The price above is more than fine, if not slightly generous (out of context, that is). In what world is that a 1st to move?
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 2:29 p.m.
Thread: For the Blues Fans - Buchnevich
Other than maybe Robert Thomas, Pavel Buchnevich is my favorite player on this roster. I was advocating for them giving away a 1st to the Rangers to get him, they ended up getting him for less than that. He's been nothing but an unbelievable true 200ft player and if they re-sign him, I won't even pretend that part of me won't be glad he's staying, even if I agree with A_K that it's the wrong direction to go with this roster.

And it is the wrong direction to go. This team cannot have another red arrow on their Capfriendly page for a player that's 30 years old (which he will be when his next contract starts). It doesn't make sense to re-sign him. It doesn't make sense to let him walk for nothing. They can either do what doesn't make sense, or they can trade him. I would prefer my team to do things that make sense.
Forum: Armchair-GMMon. at 12:59 p.m.
Thread: Core 4 isnt leaving
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BDHockey</b></div><div>Thats fair. I'm in the camp that we should trade Buchnevich, long term I don't necessairily see need to keep him in our Top 6, unless we eventually push Neighbours down to 3rd line. His value isn't two first anymore unless he commands a lot of attention in the offseason and there is a bidding war.</div></div>

I agree in trading Buch. Get good value while you can.
Then top two lines in the near future are Bolduc, Neighbours, Thomas, Kyrou, Snuggy, and Dvorsky. Buch is a luxury item right now but if trading him nets a good return that speeds up the retool and adds youth, I'm all for it. Unless he signs a reasonable extension around a 6x6.5 then keep him. anything north of 7.5 for 6+ years may be too rich
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 8 at 2:14 p.m.
Thread: Crazy idea that will never happen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BDHockey</b></div><div>Agreed, Jones is better than both but had a down year and hasn't he come out and said he doesn't want to play on a rebuilding team. Your team gets worse, but its not like Jones is going to play well on the Blackhawks right now either. The way I see it you get some cap flexibility in a few years while staying above the floor now and get some decent draft picks. Blues swap some draft capital to shed their bad contracts and pick up a risky but better defensman.

Ill admit the retention might be much, but I think the base of the deal could make some sense for Chicago.</div></div>

Just so you know, I have read the entire thread.

Even if the Hawks were willing to retain on Jones, this deal dies w/ the addition of Krug. The only spots the Hawks have for him would be 3rd pair RD (for a guy who has never played meaningful minutes on his off side) or as the highly paid (and probably disgruntled) 7th D. And even when he does play, Krug isn't getting PP time ahead of Faulk or Korchinski, so that takes away a big chunk of his usefulness. Hawks likely have to turn around and try to flip Krug w/ retention to a team that needs a PP QB (few if any) or keep him for a season and buy him out. In my opinion, Jones w/ the retention for the two picks and Faulk has some legs. If Krug is included, the retention on Jones definitely goes away at a minimum. Possibly that '24 2nd becomes another 1st. That's how much the Hawks don't want to deal w/ Krug.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 8 at 10:36 a.m.
Thread: Crazy idea that will never happen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BDHockey</b></div><div>Agreed, Jones is better than both but had a down year and hasn't he come out and said he doesn't want to play on a rebuilding team. Your team gets worse, but its not like Jones is going to play well on the Blackhawks right now either. The way I see it you get some cap flexibility in a few years while staying above the floor now and get some decent draft picks. Blues swap some draft capital to shed their bad contracts and pick up a risky but better defensman.

Ill admit the retention might be much, but I think the base of the deal could make some sense for Chicago.</div></div>

We have larger issues and create even more problems if we take on Krug. We have Vlasic and Korchinksi as our #1 and #2 LD. So do I want to have Krug as our #3LD or do I want to bring up Ethan Del Mastro who was an AHL all-star last year and actually develop my prospects. We just can't take Krug. He's not making our team. That's my biggest issue. We'd just waive him and send him to Rockford. Even if it's not Ethan Del Mastro, we have Wyatt Kaiser that's ready for the NHL...and if it's not Kaiser it's Nolan Allan. We just can't have $6.5M in Rockford even if it's with the 10th OA pick.

***EDIT*** Well...ok I need to take that back if it was just Krug and the 10th OA absolutely because it'll just be 1 year of cap problems for us, but that's not happening.