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Which trade makes the most sense

Created by: Sigma69blls
Team: 2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 9, 2024
Published: Jun. 9, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Obviously only if Marner waives
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Fabbro, Dante
  2. Saros, Juuse
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (TBL)
2.
TOR
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel
  2. Parayko, Colton
  3. 2025 4th round pick (STL)
Additional Details:
On the very slim chance parayko waives for T.O
STL
  1. Hirvonen, Roni
  2. Robertson, Nicholas [RFA Rights]
Additional Details:
Marner, Mitch
3.
TOR
  1. Crouse, Lawson
  2. Ingram, Connor
  3. Simashev, Dmitri [Reserve List]
  4. 2025 2nd round pick (TOR)
UTA
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
Additional Details:
Marner, Mitch
Robertson, Nick
Liljegren, Timothy
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$88,000,000$82,216,667$0$0$5,783,333
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$925,000$925,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$13,250,000$13,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 4
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$11,500,000$11,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$5,800,000$5,800,000
LW, RW, C
NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Utah Hockey Club
$4,300,000$4,300,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,400,000$2,400,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$800,000$800,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,100,000$1,100,000
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$766,667$766,667
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Nashville Predators
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Utah Hockey Club
$1,950,000$1,950,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$875,000$875,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Jun. 9 at 5:59 p.m.
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Not the blues one. They say no easily.
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Jun. 9 at 6:04 p.m.
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I heff to be mad...
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Not the blues one. They say no easily.


Those were my thoughts too but ive seen a lot of other leafs fans attack if Marner is undervalued in the slightest
Jun. 9 at 6:10 p.m.
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Quoting: Sigma69blls
Those were my thoughts too but ive seen a lot of other leafs fans attack if Marner is undervalued in the slightest


I meant the blues say no. Value wise I think it’s good! But it just makes no sense for the blues to trade a top pair Dman and a first line winger for Marner.

I also don’t think the leafs should trade Marner. I think they should resign him and use JTs cap to get better
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Jun. 9 at 6:12 p.m.
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You can take Parayko or Buch out of the Blues trade and they still say no
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Jun. 9 at 6:13 p.m.
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Quoting: Away
I meant the blues say no. Value wise I think it’s good! But it just makes no sense for the blues to trade a top pair Dman and a first line winger for Marner.

I also don’t think the leafs should trade Marner. I think they should resign him and use JTs cap to get better


Marner has got to be the worst playoff performer OAT, I don't honestly see why anyone would take him.
Jun. 9 at 6:19 p.m.
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Quoting: noted
You can take Parayko or Buch out of the Blues trade and they still say no


I would be happy as a leafs fan for a marner for buch 1 for 1, just anything different than running it back
Jun. 9 at 6:21 p.m.
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Marner has got to be the worst playoff performer OAT, I don't honestly see why anyone would take him.


He leads the Leafs in playoff points. If you think his playoff production is an individual thing and not a direct result of management failing to put together a well-balanced roster, then not sure what to say.
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Jun. 9 at 6:23 p.m.
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Lets go Preds
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Marner has got to be the worst playoff performer OAT, I don't honestly see why anyone would take him.


Marners 50 points in 57 games vs Matthew’s 48 points in 55 games vs Nylanders 43 points in 54 games
Jun. 9 at 6:54 p.m.
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Marner rocks
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Marner has got to be the worst playoff performer OAT, I don't honestly see why anyone would take him.


LOL
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Jun. 9 at 6:55 p.m.
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Quoting: WN88
He leads the Leafs in playoff points. If you think his playoff production is an individual thing and not a direct result of management failing to put together a well-balanced roster, then not sure what to say.


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Marners 50 points in 57 games vs Matthew’s 48 points in 55 games vs Nylanders 43 points in 54 games


Not everything is about stats. I'm not sure you guys watch the few leafs games during the playoffs, but he is bad bad, he doesn't back check like he used to and players like matthews and nylander are just disappointing all around
Jun. 9 at 6:56 p.m.
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Quoting: jaok3
LOL


Maybe I exaggerated a teeny tiny bit lol
Jun. 9 at 7:12 p.m.
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Lets go Preds
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Not everything is about stats. I'm not sure you guys watch the few leafs games during the playoffs, but he is bad bad, he doesn't back check like he used to and players like matthews and nylander are just disappointing all around


I think all your stars were pretty disappointing this year. But calling marner the worse is what I was commenting on. Only knock I have on marner is how he views his contract. I think he is overpaid now and will be overpaid on his next contract. I think he’s worth 10 max
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Jun. 9 at 8:00 p.m.
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Quoting: GeauxPreds1
I think all your stars were pretty disappointing this year. But calling marner the worse is what I was commenting on. Only knock I have on marner is how he views his contract. I think he is overpaid now and will be overpaid on his next contract. I think he’s worth 10 max


That's the unfortunate reality of playing in a league that has a hard hard cap. He could have a 12.5 million dollar cap hit and still make less than Tkachuk because of taxes. IMO, it's a clear issue that should be fixed.
If you don't think this is true, just look at Nylander's contract: 11.5 for the next 8 years is 92 million. For any other team in the league to match that 92 million dollar number, they'd have to pay him 13 million dollars a year because they are limited to 7 years. No team is doing that, and Nylander and the Leafs know that. They aren't stupid. The cap hit had to be made higher because of taxes. Period. And it's an embarrassment.
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Jun. 9 at 8:03 p.m.
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Quoting: GeauxPreds1
I think all your stars were pretty disappointing this year. But calling marner the worse is what I was commenting on. Only knock I have on marner is how he views his contract. I think he is overpaid now and will be overpaid on his next contract. I think he’s worth 10 max


And I understand you're saying that he's worth 10 max because he doesn't perform relative to what other players make, but there's just nothing the Leafs can do about the taxes. He will make less than 10 million a year on his next contract, no matter the cap hit.
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