Based on Recent Trade Proposals Ive Seen Lately

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Created by: KingofRnR

Team: 2024-25 Calgary Flames

Initial Creation Date: Jun. 5, 2024

Published: Jun. 5, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

With 9th + 10th + 14th Overall + TWO 2nds, Flames can Trade up for Iginla or whoever they see fit

Free Agent Signings

RFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Klapka, Adam	2	$813,750
Kuznetsov, Yan	2	$813,750
Schwindt, Cole	1	$775,000
Solovyov, Ilya	1	$775,000
Damiani, Riley	1	$775,000
Pelletier, Jakob	2	$1,000,000
Wolf, Dustin	3	$1,500,000
Asplund, Rasmus	1	$775,000

UFA	YEARS	CAP HIT
Kylington, Oliver	1	$1,250,000
Hakanpää, Jani	2	$1,650,000
Raanta, Antti	1	$850,000
Duclair, Anthony	3	$4,500,000

Trades

CGY

Graves, Ryan ($750,000 retained)
2024 7th round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

So unrealistic PIT retains for 5yrs, but here it is

PIT

Hanley, Joel
2024 4th round pick (NJD)

CGY

Stillman, Chase
2024 1st round pick (NJD)

NJD

Markström, Jacob ($3,000,000 retained)
2024 1st round pick (VAN)

CGY

Additional Details:

Cap Dump

TBL

Duehr, Walker

CGY

Additional Details:

If not Raty, then a Pick and if not McBain, then Hayton

UTA

CGY

Edstrom, David
Wiesblatt, Ozzy
2024 1st round pick (PIT)

Additional Details:

Flames get another Mid-1st RD Pick + Top Prospect and Swap Prospects. They also make room for Duclair

SJS

Additional Details:

Sharangovich gets a nice long-term extension from SJ and SJ gets a Young 30 Goal Scorer

CGY

Asplund, Rasmus [RFA Rights]
Luostarinen, Eetu

Additional Details:

If FLA needs Cap Space

FLA

Pelletier, Jakob
Schwindt, Cole
2024 4th round pick (CGY)

Retained Salary Transactions

Jacob Markström: $3,000,000 (72.73%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
24	$87,700,000	$75,528,332	$0	$1,062,500	$12,171,668

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kuzmenko, Andrei $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Kadri, Nazem $7,000,000$7,000,000 C NMC UFA - 5	Zary, Connor $863,333$863,333 ($212,500$212K) LW, C RFA - 1
Huberdeau, Jonathan $10,500,000$10,500,000 LW, RW NMC UFA - 7	Luostarinen, Eetu $3,000,000$3,000,000 LW, C UFA - 3	Duclair, Anthony $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 4
Coleman, Blake $4,900,000$4,900,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 3	Backlund, Mikael $4,500,000$4,500,000 C NMC UFA - 2	Coronato, Matthew $925,000$925,000 ($850,000$850K) RW RFA - 1
Jeannot, Tanner $2,665,000$2,665,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1	McBain, Jack $1,599,999$1,599,999 C, LW RFA - 1	Pospisil, Martin $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW RFA - 2
Asplund, Rasmus $775,000$775,000 LW, C UFA - 1		Hunt, Dryden $775,000$775,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Weegar, MacKenzie $6,250,000$6,250,000 LD/RD NTC UFA - 7	Andersson, Rasmus $4,550,000$4,550,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Wolf, Dustin $1,500,000$1,500,000 G RFA
Graves, Ryan $3,750,000$3,750,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 5	Miromanov, Daniil $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD UFA - 2	Vladar, Daniel $2,200,000$2,200,000 G UFA - 1
Kylington, Oliver $1,250,000$1,250,000 LD/RD UFA	Hakanpää, Jani $1,650,000$1,650,000 RD UFA - 2	Raanta, Antti $850,000$850,000 G UFA
	Pachal, Brayden $775,000$775,000 RD RFA - 1

Taxi Squad
Edstrom, David $918,333$918,333 ($0$0$0$0) C RFA - 3
Räty, Aku $896,250$896,250 ($0$0$0$0) C RFA - 1
Wiesblatt, Ozzy $835,833$835,833 ($0$0$0$0) RW RFA - 1
Stillman, Chase $863,333$863,333 ($0$0$0$0) RW RFA - 2
Schmidt, Roman $805,833$805,833 ($0$0$0$0) ($82,500$82K) RD RFA - 2
Solovyov, Ilya $775,000$775,000 ($0$0$0$0) LD RFA

Jun. 5 at 5:05 p.m.

Waffelz

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Sharks have absolutely 0 interest in that.

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Jun. 5 at 5:07 p.m.

Smitty426

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Those Jersey trade are coming from one side only not the other way.

Let's ask: Is Alex Holtz worth 10th OA in this draft? No! So what is our GM going to pay more when there is less pressure to do so? He's not!
If Ullmark is valued at a '25 1st and a small add Markstrom is less

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Jun. 5 at 5:07 p.m.

KingofRnR

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Quoting: Waffelz

Sharks have absolutely 0 interest in that.

Care to elaborate at all as to why? They’re stacked with Prospects & Picks and could use a Proven Young Goal Scoring Stud who’s prime for a long-term contract…

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Jun. 5 at 5:11 p.m.

KingofRnR

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Quoting: Smitty426

Go ahead and glorify Ullmark all you want simply because he’s younger, but he’s already said no to playing for NJD and CF has him as an 841A vs. Markstrom’s 901A. I doubt Saros gets moved this off-season either, so…

With 50% retention and the 28th Overall Pick, my offer is close to 3x late 1st Round Picks, which is worth more than 10OA, so we’d need something back and Stillman isn’t even that good of a Prospect. Flames can add a 2nd if it’s Holtz instead.

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Jun. 5 at 5:16 p.m.

dgibb10

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Go ahead and glorify Ullmark all you want simply because he’s younger, but he’s already said no to playing for NJD and CF has him as an 841A vs. Markstrom’s 901A. I doubt Saros gets moved this off-season either, so…

With 50% retention and the 28th Overall Pick, my offer is close to 3x late 1st Round Picks, which is worth more than 10OA, so we’d need something back and Stillman isn’t even that good of a Prospect. Flames can add a 2nd if it’s Holtz instead.

Where's the 3rd late 1st? Certainly not a 1st for unretained Markstrom lmao

Jun. 5 at 5:21 p.m.

DFinn91

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Care to elaborate at all as to why? They’re stacked with Prospects & Picks and could use a Proven Young Goal Scoring Stud who’s prime for a long-term contract…

Because the sharks are in a rebuild. They’re not trading away the 14th overall pick and the prospect they got in the Hertl trade for Yegor Sharangovich.

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Jun. 5 at 5:36 p.m.

KingofRnR

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Quoting: dgibb10

Where's the 3rd late 1st? Certainly not a 1st for unretained Markstrom lmao

Sure, why not!? Dominik Hasek was Traded Unretained for more than a late 1st when he went to DET. He was 35.5 years old and had a Cap Hit of like $7.75mil at the time = July 2001

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Jun. 5 at 5:37 p.m.

glarson17

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Care to elaborate at all as to why? They’re stacked with Prospects & Picks and could use a Proven Young Goal Scoring Stud who’s prime for a long-term contract…

That’s two 1st round picks and a former 1st for a 2nd to 3rd line winger and a worse center prospect. Why the hell would they consider that to be even close?

Jun. 5 at 5:47 p.m.

KingofRnR

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Quoting: DFinn91

Because the sharks are in a rebuild. They’re not trading away the 14th overall pick and the prospect they got in the Hertl trade for Yegor Sharangovich.

MTL Traded for Kirby Dach & Alex Newhook in their rebuild…

You already Traded Okhotiuk out from the Meier deal…

Quoting: glarson17

That’s two 1st round picks and a former 1st for a 2nd to 3rd line winger and a worse center prospect. Why the hell would they consider that to be even close?

Don’t forget you have Bystedt to make ice time for as well and who knows if he or Edstrom even become full-time NHL Players, whereas Sharangovich has already proven he’s the real deal. Who cares Wiesblatt was barely Drafted in the 1st Round, he’s not a Top Prospect by any means and by the looks of things, SJ could use more Left Handed Forward Prospects

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Jun. 5 at 5:49 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Sure, why not!? Dominik Hasek was Traded Unretained for more than a late 1st when he went to DET. He was 35.5 years old and had a Cap Hit of like $7.75mil at the time = July 2001

He was also coming off his sixth Vezina trophy

(And Wings were nutty about trading picks for older vets in those years…Chelios, Schneider, etc)

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Jun. 5 at 5:50 p.m.

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KingofRnR

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

He was also coming off his sixth Vezina trophy

(And Wings were nutty about trading picks for older vets in this years…Chelios, Schneider, etc)

Semantics lol 😂

Jun. 5 at 5:52 p.m.

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glarson17

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Quoting: KingofRnR

MTL Traded for Kirby Dach & Alex Newhook in their rebuild…

You already Traded Okhotiuk out from the Meier deal…

Don’t forget you have Bystedt to make ice time for as well and who knows if he or Edstrom even become full-time NHL Players, whereas Sharangovich has already proven he’s the real deal. Who cares Wiesblatt was barely Drafted in the 1st Round, he’s not a Top Prospect by any means and by the looks of things, SJ could use more Left Handed Forward Prospects

San Jose has plenty of left handed players. Their whole lineup is left handed.

This trade is essentially sharangovich for Edstrom and the 14th overall. Weisblatt=Nikolayev. There’s no way any team would pay a top prospect and a 14 overall pick for a guy who has had 1 good year.

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Jun. 5 at 5:54 p.m.

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KingofRnR

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Quoting: glarson17

I said Prospects dude. SJ has like no Minor League Left Shot Forwards other than Bystedt.

Do you see what’s being offered for Necas these days!? Did you see what Tanner Jeannot got Traded for!?

Jun. 5 at 5:59 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Go ahead and glorify Ullmark all you want simply because he’s younger, but he’s already said no to playing for NJD and CF has him as an 841A vs. Markstrom’s 901A. I doubt Saros gets moved this off-season either, so…
So he said no because they we're in season and he'd hope to win a cup with Swayman, not sure Jersey had anything to do with it at the time. But you believe what you want.Trotz is supposedly working on a deal with Juce and thats ok by me.

With 50% retention and the 28th Overall Pick, my offer is close to 3x late 1st Round Picks, which is worth more than 10OA, so we’d need something back and Stillman isn’t even that good of a Prospect. Flames can add a 2nd if it’s Holtz instead.

Your high! He had more value at TDL and your GM listened to Maloney, thats on him. Now you want a mulligan and more added! I dont think thats happening. I'd like Marky but no way your getting 10OA for a 35/6 yr old G from us.

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Jun. 5 at 6:22 p.m.

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KingofRnR

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Quoting: Smitty426

You seem to be missing or ignoring the $6mil over 2 seasons of retention and 28th Overall Pick I included as well. Perhaps you’re the one on the Devil’s Salad and it’s You’re, as in You Are

Jun. 5 at 6:23 p.m.

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Calgary won't be bailing Tampa out of a cap crunch unless Tampa pays for it.

Quoting: Smitty426

The deadline deal was far from just Holtz going to Calgary, it was more like Holtz/Mercer + NJ 2024 1st + Casey for Markstrom. Calgary wanted Mercer, NJ wanted to keep Mercer and move Holtz instead. That 1st is worth more now than it was at that time and after Mercer failed to even beat Nosek for a spot as 3rd line center Calgary probably isn't very interested in him anymore.

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Jun. 5 at 8:22 p.m.

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Quoting: MoxNix

Calgary won't be bailing Tampa out of a cap crunch unless Tampa pays for it.

The deadline deal was far from just Holtz going to Calgary, it was more like Holtz/Mercer + NJ 2024 1st + Casey for Markstrom. Calgary wanted Mercer, NJ wanted to keep Mercer and move Holtz instead. That 1st is worth more now than it was at that time and after Mercer failed to even beat Nosek for a spot as 3rd line center Calgary probably isn't very interested in him anymore.

Jun. 5 at 8:45 p.m.

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ShadowBowser

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Your never getting a 1st for a 34 yr even with retain stop overvaluing goalies. PS mercer wasnt a center, he was a winger most of the year.

Jun. 5 at 8:55 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

You seem to be missing or ignoring the $6mil over 2 seasons of retention and 28th Overall Pick I included as well. Perhaps you’re the one on the Devil’s Salad and it’s You’re, as in You Are

There was the same 6 mill in retention at the deadline.

Just for 3 years of markstrom (including his age 34 year, by far his most valuable).

Jun. 5 at 9:25 p.m.

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Quoting: dgibb10

There was the same 6 mill in retention at the deadline.

Just for 3 years of markstrom (including his age 34 year, by far his most valuable).

I doubt that much retention was discussed or ever on the table. Pretty sure the fact NJD wanted retention at all is the main reason why it cratered

Jun. 5 at 9:26 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

I doubt that much retention was discussed or ever on the table. Pretty sure the fact NJD wanted retention at all is the main reason why it cratered

2 mill AAV of retention was 100% on the table

Jun. 5 at 11:00 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

I said Prospects dude. SJ has like no Minor League Left Shot Forwards other than Bystedt.

Do you see what’s being offered for Necas these days!? Did you see what Tanner Jeannot got Traded for!?

Tanner Jeanot was a terrible trade an everyone knew it from the start. Necas isn’t going to get that much of a haul, realistically what’s his comp? Meier? Meier was better at the time and San Jose took a ton back on it. Okhotiuk was a very small piece of the deal. Mukhamadullin was the main prospect.

Mukhamadullin, Gushchin, Cagnoni, Furlong, Musty all Left handed. Could add Eklund to that list, he’s only 21. Celebrini will be there too. Plenty of lefty’s. They aren’t making a trade to just add more left handers.

Jun. 5 at 11:19 p.m.

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Quoting: KingofRnR

Care to elaborate at all as to why? They’re stacked with Prospects & Picks and could use a Proven Young Goal Scoring Stud who’s prime for a long-term contract…

SJ no where near the point that adding one scorer makes any difference, Trading 2 1st for the privledge makes no sense SJ goal is another bottom 3 finish next year

Jun. 5 at 11:33 p.m.

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Waffelz

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Quoting: KingofRnR

I said Prospects dude. SJ has like no Minor League Left Shot Forwards other than Bystedt.

Do you see what’s being offered for Necas these days!? Did you see what Tanner Jeannot got Traded for!?

It's entirely possible that San Jose can get draft a playerof the same level as Shargovich with that 1st round pick, not even considering the addition of Edstrom and Weisblatt (who is admittedly fading).

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Jun. 5 at 11:35 p.m.

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Quoting: Waffelz

Yet at the same time both that 1st and Edstrom could end up being nothing

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