Buffalo and philly fans would this be enough

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Created by: Emil_Ismo

Team: 2023-24 San Jose Sharks

Initial Creation Date: May 13, 2024

Published: May 13, 2024

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

The trades below are the two types of trades I could see the Sharks offering Buffalo or Philly if any of the top-6 D-men are still on the board. But are they realistic, would you guys want something else or are you completely unwilling to trade down? I could really see the Buffalo interested in trading down based on how stacked they are at D.

Trades

SJS

2024 1st round pick (BUF)

Additional Details:

#11.

BUF

2024 1st round pick (PIT)
2024 2nd round pick (NJD)

Additional Details:

#14 + #42.
Looking at models which have tried to compute the value of draft picks this is probably a bit of an overpay to move up three spots, but the Sharks don't really have any pick that would make it "fair".

SJS

2024 1st round pick (PHI)

Additional Details:

#12.

PHI

Gushchin, Daniil
2024 7th round pick (SJS)

Additional Details:

#14 + Guschin. This is the other trade I could see the Sharks offering, including a more NHL ready prospect if a team would be interested.

Buyouts

Martin Jones: $2,916,667
Rūdolfs Balcers: $308,334

Retained Salary Transactions

Brent Burns: $2,720,000 (34%)
Erik Karlsson: $1,500,000 (13.04%)
Tomas Hertl: $1,387,500 (17.05%)

Buried

Oskar Lindblom: $1,350,000 ($2,500,000)
Nikolai Knyzhov: $100,000 ($1,250,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2024
2025
2026

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
25	$83,500,000	$75,316,668	$25,000	$1,087,500	$8,183,332

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 1	Granlund, Mikael $5,000,000$5,000,000 C, RW UFA - 2	Labanc, Kevin $4,725,000$4,725,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Kostin, Klim $2,000,000$2,000,000 LW, RW RFA - 2	Sturm, Nico $2,000,000$2,000,000 C UFA - 2	Kunin, Luke $2,750,000$2,750,000 RW, C RFA - 1
Eklund, William $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) LW RFA - 3	Bordeleau, Thomas $916,667$916,667 C, LW RFA - 1	Barabanov, Alexander $2,500,000$2,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Smith, Givani $800,000$800,000 LW, RW UFA - 2		Zetterlund, Fabian $1,450,000$1,450,000 RW RFA - 2
		Zadina, Filip $1,100,000$1,100,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
		Graf, Collin $941,667$941,667 ($25,000$25K) RW, C RFA - 3
		Bailey, Justin $775,000$775,000 RW UFA - 1
		Carpenter, Ryan $775,000$775,000 RW, C UFA - 1
		Studnicka, Jack $762,500$762,500 RW, C RFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Vlasic, Marc-Édouard $7,000,000$7,000,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3	Addison, Calen $825,000$825,000 RD RFA - 1	Blackwood, Mackenzie $2,350,000$2,350,000 G UFA - 2
Ferraro, Mario $3,250,000$3,250,000 LD UFA - 3		Cooley, Devin $775,000$775,000 G UFA - 1
Rutta, Jan $2,750,000$2,750,000 LD/RD UFA - 2
Burroughs, Kyle $1,100,000$1,100,000 LD/RD UFA - 3
Thrun, Henry $912,500$912,500 ($212,500$212K) LD RFA - 1
MacDonald, Jacob $762,500$762,500 LD/RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Couture, Logan $8,000,000$8,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4
	Vanecek, Vitek $3,400,000$3,400,000 G UFA - 2
	Benning, Matthew $1,250,000$1,250,000 RD UFA - 3
	Emberson, Ty $775,000$775,000 RD RFA - 1

May 13 at 12:27 p.m.

wojme

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If eiserman is there at 11, the sabres aren't moving back.

May 13 at 12:29 p.m.

Emil_Ismo

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Quoting: wojme

If eiserman is there at 11, the sabres aren't moving back.

But if he isn't?

May 13 at 12:30 p.m.

Waffelz

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I think the level of parity between the players available in the middle of the 1st this year make trading up a poor decision.

May 13 at 12:31 p.m.

wojme

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Quoting: Emil_Ismo

But if he isn't?

Sabres trade the pick in a package for an upgrade to the current roster which they should do even if Cole is available

May 13 at 12:38 p.m.

MNCountryClub

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It's a question nobody on here can answer and anyone that pretends they can is kidding themselves.

In 2019, AZ jumped from 14 to 11 for pick 45. Your value is fine.

Just comes down to each FOs individual draft board and how things shake out on draft day. On paper and for ACGM entertainment purposes, it's totally reasonable.

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May 13 at 12:57 p.m.

Emil_Ismo

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Quoting: MNCountryClub

True, I guess I just wanted to see what the perspective of the other fan bases were.

Quoting: Waffelz

I think the level of parity between the players available in the middle of the 1st this year make trading up a poor decision.

For any other team I would agree, but the Sharks desperately needs more talented D prospects. So in terms of improving our prospect pool Yakemchuck would make a hell of a lot more difference than a Greentree.

May 13 at 2:05 p.m.

Shibbal18

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Sabres dont need more picks, they need immediate upgrades

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May 13 at 2:11 p.m.

NickOT74

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with the flyers need for elite talent I doubt they move back, if they trade the pick they'll either want a good prospect in return or a young center

May 13 at 2:52 p.m.

OrganizedConfusion55

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What about pick 11 for couture, 3 million retained.

May 13 at 3:12 p.m.

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glarson17

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I don’t think San Jose moves a nhl ready prospect like Gushchin to move up 2 spots

May 14 at 9:12 a.m.

#11

Eldoser

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Quoting: glarson17

I don’t think San Jose moves a nhl ready prospect like Gushchin to move up 2 spots

I don't think Guschin ever becomes a regular in the NHL and also don't think Philly would have any interest in doing that.

May 14 at 1:33 p.m.

#12

glarson17

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Quoting: Eldoser

I don't think Guschin ever becomes a regular in the NHL and also don't think Philly would have any interest in doing that.

How not exactly? He’s look good in the few games he’s been in NhL wise and has been great in the ahl.

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