That's not even close for Rossi lol, why is Minnesota adding the better pick

Came to say this. lol

Simple.

Because it's a Leafs ACGM made by a Leafs fan.

Most ACGM's are not accurate there's a reason why most of us aren't in the GM business. It isn't just a Leafs fan issue lol

Maybe, but there's a reason that Leafs and Canadiens threads have the bad reputation they do on here. You guys consistently post deals that are far worse than average, and you do it way more often.

That could just be because there's more fans than others so there are more people posting bad trades for those teams than others. I have seen bad takes from every fanbase though.

I just think it's unfair to label all fans under a single category as I personally appreciate criticism when I'm off on valuations.

Let me be clear.

It's a relativistic generalization. Sure, it's not all Leafs fans. A few are pretty level-headed and know what the hell they're talking about. Those fans wisdom is both welcomed and appreciated on here.

@pahal falls into such a category around here.

The problem is the OTHER 96% of Leafs fans that post asinine BS on here give them the reputation they have on site. It's very much deserved, whether you like it or not.

It is what it is. And this one doesn't help that reputation by any means.

I try to be realistic as possible, but bias affects everyone to a point which I try to take into consideration as much as I can.

I just dislike having anything I think be brushed aside due to who I cheer for, I think that is unfair.

However, I do see your side of it as well.

(and yes I don't agree with this ACGM either.)

I don't think what you think would be brushed aside just because of who you cheer for so long as your proposals don't look like the OP and you stick around and try to have a conversation where you're open to feedback, as you said.

But most interactions with Leafs fans here are such that OP will post a deal like this, and then completely abandon the thread without taking any of the feedback given (and even post a similar deal in about an hour or two), OR will stick around and double down on his proposal without taking any of the feedback given. For example, I have seen way too many threads with Marner going to Minnesota, and in every thread I see it's always explained why Minnesota isn't interested in Marner, yet we still see dozens of Marner to Minnesota threads. And often times it's someone who already posted one and was told Minnesota isn't interested.

It is unfortunate for fans like you, but that really is just the way it is around here, a lot of the time.

Yeah I agree, it is occasionally brushed aside, specifically by a couple users which I will not name, but most are very respectful. I try to take every criticism into account and learn and improve, and I am happy to discuss anything, even if I don't agree.

It's unfortunate you & most haven't had great experiences with a lot of Leafs fans on here, I wish I could change that but I am only one person.

Isles decline...don't want him even if he's free.