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Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:51 p.m.
Thread: Minny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Digitalbooya06</b></div><div>Fletcher's downfall was that he traded picks to get **** players (Hanzal, Stewart, Moulson, etc). Or the putrid Tuch+Haula to Vegas for expansion protection. We are still feeling the ramifications from some of those trades.

I think the issue not being taken into account is that you are not making your team better. You're treading water. Not good. Not bad. Perfectly Minnesota errrr I mean mediocre.

Look at all the top teams. Plenty of them have key free agent signings. I mean, look at Dallas: Marchment, Pavelski, Duchene, Smith, Steel, Suter, Hakanpaa, etc. Florida: Verhaeghe, Rodrigues, Mikkola, OEL, Bobrovsky, etc.

You don't have to go crazy. Like I said, if we could get Boeser, Frederic, and Perbix, I think we are sitting pretty. Maybe we don't need to trade Spurgeon for that to happen. But I have more of an issue with Spurgeon the player than his contract. I doubt that his two surgeries suddenly made him better. He's still a limited midget that has to rely on "smarts" that can be bulldozed and taken advantage of by bigger players. He doesn't play well in the playoffs. These things might be fine if the rest of our dmen were 6'3" bruising dmen. They are not. Our defense is so soft.</div></div>

I'm not against free agent signings in the right deal for the right player, but it's not generally smart to go after the big ones. The bigger they are, the less smart it is. Those are roles meant for guys like Boldy who come up through your system and sign by 7x7, which should be a bargain by the time it's over. Or Rossi, who you'd lock up to some kind of similar deal and hope for similar results.

If you don't have those pieces set before you start signing free agents, you will still be treading water. Not good, not bad, just perfectly Minnesota errr mediocre. The Wild have been proving this for 20+ years. You can't get the high end pieces through free agency, but trying to add the free agents before you have the high end pieces from the draft will keep you as a team who enjoys yearly first round exits.

If Yurov is a true 1C, and Faber is a true 1D, and Wallstedt is a true 1G, then you have the pieces in place, especially with guys like Boldy, Rossi, (insert defenseman taken 13th overall this summer), to start signing all the free agents with the money left. But we're not there yet.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 10:05 p.m.
Thread: Minny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Digitalbooya06</b></div><div>Cap space also helps keep players like Faber around, who Russo is already talking about receiving $9M+ per year. Rossi will need an extension. Kaprizov? Yeah, he's pretty important and will need a fat extension.

Cap space is also important in creating depth for the team. This is a one line team currently with an important player or two amongst a sea of misfits in the bottom 9. You know how good this team would be if they could persuade a couple of key free agents to join the team? They don't even have to be high priced guys. You could probably get Boeser at a discount because he wants to be here. Sam Bennett, Trent Frederic, Nick Perbix, etc. Plenty of quality depth to be had.


**** dude, I'd take someone that actually plays. Being good doesn't matter if you can't stay healthy. Being good doesn't matter when the playoffs roll around and you fold up like a cheap tent.

Spurgeon is the epitome of why this team never makes it past the first round of the playoffs. Keep being attached to mediocrity. Great ****ing strategy.</div></div>

I think Faber's contract won't be an issue as that's when the worst of the buyouts drops off. Kaprizov's contract only requires an additional 3-4M from where he's at now, so that's easy (Zuccarello's 4M drops off that same summer). I haven't done a deep dive to see how much cap space we're actually projected to have in the summers of 2025 and 2026, so I can't really say for certain what the cap space looks like those years. Should have a few guys on ELC's in the next year or two though, which helps with cap space and highlights the importance of not trading 13th overall picks when you get them.

Point is I don't think Spurgeon's contract is an impediment to extending anyone they want to between now and the time it ends in 2027. The only guys who are going to command big money between now and then that aren't already making big money are Rossi and Faber, and it sounds like Rossi may not even be here for his next contract. Plus, you trade Spurgeon, and I'm not sure we're a playoff team anyway unless you can immediately replace him. We'd pretty much be watching last season again.

Still, signing free agents generally requires overpaying them with both term and AAV. That's basically what Fletcher's entire tenure was, and that resulted in jack. Great teams are usually home grown, they lock their guys up to lower AAV's than they'd get on the open market, and they have a few ELC guys playing like non-ELC guys. You build through the draft if you want to be a great team, not through free agency.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 7:36 p.m.
Thread: Back to my roots
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>NHLfan10506</b></div><div>To be fair, it’s a trade that a Russo article initially spurred and numerous MIN fans have expressed their support.</div></div>

"Getting a first-rounder for Gustavsson seems unlikely, but perhaps the Wild could get a second. They’d probably prefer to get a rostered player back, anyway — ideally a middle-six winger. They could also use Gustavsson as a chip to move up in the first round, though many of the teams ahead of them aren’t necessarily in the market for goalies. The Flyers could be a fit, but they’re only one spot ahead.

This isn’t a fire sale on Gustavsson, though. The Wild will listen on him, but they’re not going to just give him away. And if they don’t trade him, they could start Wallstedt in the minors and/or have three goalies on the roster at times next season."

Nowhere in there does he preclude the idea of NJ adding something in return. If they value Gustavsson at a 2nd rounder, they'd be trading a 2nd to move up 3 spots in this draft. That means potentially another good prospect like Heidt, Khustnudinov, Peart, etc, and the difference in who's available at 13 and who's available at 10 this year likely isn't worth sacrificing that. I don't care what other MIN fans say, it's not a good use of value. If NJ wants to add a lesser F/D prospect to their end we can talk.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 6:49 p.m.
Thread: Minny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ZachArmel</b></div><div>How about on the other side? You know? Defence!! Marner played 142 mins on the PK this past year. Marner has more takeaways, Marner has more blocked shots, Kaprizov played more minutes on the pp (Toronto was near bottom of pp mins)

Kaprizov has played in 19 playoff games and has 12 pts, Marner who is not a playoff performer has 50 in 57

Kaprizov is a great player but he is not Marner and I do not like Mitchy. I want him off my team. But he is still a top 5 winger in the league</div></div>

Oh wow, I didn't know you were going to bring up takeaways and blocked shots. Those almost make up for the 40 extra goals scored.

If Marner is a top 5 winger in the league, Kaprizov is top 4.

People don't want supposed top 5 players off their team. They want to keep those guys.
Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 5:41 p.m.