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PLD for Marner who gives more

Team: 2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: May 6, 2024
Published: May 6, 2024
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I think this is a pretty good start to a trade.
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May 6 at 9:56 a.m.
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Considering LA might entertain a buyout it’s LA to add. However LA has to sign 2 goaltenders, reup Byfield, and reup or replace Roy. Marner is too expensive and not necessary with Byfield and Kempe on the top line for LA.
May 6 at 9:57 a.m.
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LA adds significantantly
May 6 at 10:02 a.m.
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A guy who's been a disappointment for years vs a 100 point Selke finalist. This isn't a good starts. It's a trainwreck.
May 6 at 10:06 a.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
A guy who's been a disappointment for years vs a 100 point Selke finalist. This isn't a good starts. It's a trainwreck.


Don't agree. Marner has full NMC and his contract is up. Leafs won't get fair value for MM, who is also overpaid to boot.
I agree Kings would have to add, but Leafs won't get someone like Mccann for MM
May 6 at 10:47 a.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
Don't agree. Marner has full NMC and his contract is up. Leafs won't get fair value for MM, who is also overpaid to boot.
I agree Kings would have to add, but Leafs won't get someone like Mccann for MM


Won't get fair value, sure, but why take someone who undercuts so much of the cap relief from moving Marner? Getting a well-valued 5 mil player for Marner would be a win, not an 8.5-mil guy who has played like a sub-2 mil guy? Leafs have 15-goal scorers already,
May 6 at 10:50 a.m.
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Leafs can certainly live with 11m Marner for one season, then taking on PLD for seven years.
There is absolutely no logic that the Leafs have to trade Marner. UFAs come and go every year without compensation.
May 6 at 10:55 a.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
Don't agree. Marner has full NMC and his contract is up. Leafs won't get fair value for MM, who is also overpaid to boot.
I agree Kings would have to add, but Leafs won't get someone like Mccann for MM


So they have to move him and lose the trade by a huge margin eh? No choice.

Do you guys actually believe this? Or do you just say it because it's fun?
May 6 at 10:59 a.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
A guy who's been a disappointment for years vs a 100 point Selke finalist. This isn't a good starts. It's a trainwreck.


Marner a Selke Finalist last year and Matthews this year.

... It's crazy how a team can have two elite offensive players as Selke Finalists and still go nowhere. It's almost like the biggest media market in the league might just be overrating them defensively. sarcasm
May 6 at 11:03 a.m.
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By the way, LAK adds... Like, adds a lot. Marner, though slightly overpaid and coming with a habit of disappearing in the playoffs, is way better than PLD, whose effort level is in the gutter year round.

Not to mention if you were to call both "Cap dumps" (Marner isn't, even if he is overpaid) Marner only has a year left. PLD has SEVEN.

Marner is a slightly overpaid elite winger. PLD is one of the worst contracts in the league, if not THE worst.
May 6 at 11:29 a.m.
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Marner a Selke Finalist last year and Matthews this year.

... It's crazy how a team can have two elite offensive players as Selke Finalists and still go nowhere. It's almost like the biggest media market in the league might just be overrating them defensively. sarcasm


Everyone here hates TO more than they like thier own team. Of course you're saying they are overrated.
May 6 at 11:32 a.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
Everyone here hates TO more than they like thier own team. Of course you're saying they are overrated.


I'm saying they're overrated because neither of them are Top 3 defensive forwards in the league lol.

They're elite players. Matthews is a Top 3 forward in the world. They're not Top 3 in the league defensively.
May 6 at 11:35 a.m.
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I'm saying they're overrated because neither of them are Top 3 defensive forwards in the league lol.

They're elite players. Matthews is a Top 3 forward in the world. They're not Top 3 in the league defensively.


The underlying numbers and eye test says otherwise but you goofs won't ever accept that.
May 6 at 11:37 a.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
The underlying numbers and eye test says otherwise but you goofs won't ever accept that.


Yeah bro and Ovechkin was a Top 3 defensive forward in 08-09 too. tears of joy Give that man his Selke!
May 6 at 11:52 a.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Leafs can certainly live with 11m Marner for one season, then taking on PLD for seven years.
There is absolutely no logic that the Leafs have to trade Marner. UFAs come and go every year without compensation.


Why would they gamble on PLD turning it around?
May 6 at 12:12 p.m.
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Quoting: DanielSan92
Yeah bro and Ovechkin was a Top 3 defensive forward in 08-09 too. tears of joy Give that man his Selke!


He wasn't, Matthews has a reputation of being good defensively but the legions of fans like you who have small man syndrome because the Leafs get too much attention refuse to believe it.
May 6 at 12:16 p.m.
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He wasn't, Matthews has a reputation of being good defensively but the legions of fans like you who have small man syndrome because the Leafs get too much attention refuse to believe it.


Are you acknowledging that the Leafs give too much attention?

Because that kinda validates that the media is blowing up Matthews' Selke status lol. Thanks for proving my point, I guess.
May 6 at 12:20 p.m.
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Are you acknowledging that the Leafs give too much attention?

Because that kinda validates that the media is blowing up Matthews' Selke status lol. Thanks for proving my point, I guess.


Your point? The eye test says one thing, the underlying numbers say the same thing. But you say no because the Leafs get too much attention so they can't be good eh? Small man syndrome. Cool story.
May 6 at 12:26 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
Your point? The eye test says one thing, the underlying numbers say the same thing. But you say no because the Leafs get too much attention so they can't be good eh? Small man syndrome. Cool story.


"Your point?!"

Gee I dunno, you're admitting the media favors the Leafs while trying to argue that Matthews is justified in being a finalist for an award that is voted for... By the media.

BTW, nobody has small man syndrome over the Leafs. You guys have one series win in the Cap era. You haven't won a Cup since there were 6 teams. Nobody feels inferior to your **** team that hasn't done **** all since TV showed hockey in black and white. tears of joy
May 6 at 12:27 p.m.
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"Your point?!"

Gee I dunno, you're admitting the media favors the Leafs while trying to argue that Matthews is justified in being a finalist for an award that is voted for... By the media.

BTW, nobody has small man syndrome over the Leafs. You guys have one series win in the Cap era. tears of joy


I'm done, it's a sad state of affairs when people like you gain enjoyment from others misfortune. Truly sad.
May 6 at 12:29 p.m.
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I'm done, it's a sad state of affairs when people like you gain enjoyment from others misfortune. Truly sad.


Yeah bro, I'd quit too after arguing the voting isn't biased right after admitting the media (Who votes for the award) favors the Leafs. tears of joy
May 6 at 12:29 p.m.
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Yeah bro, I'd quit too after arguing the voting isn't biased right after admitting the media (Who votes for the award) favors the Leafs. tears of joy


Sad
May 6 at 12:29 p.m.
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Sad


57 years without a Cup? I agree.
 
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