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2023-2024 NHL Discussion Thread #6: The Quest for Lord Stanley's Cup

Jun. 21 at 11:03 p.m.
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There's a whole other game, winner take all. That's certainly not the definition of "done for".


Florida has zero hope left
Jun. 21 at 11:05 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
There's a whole other game, winner take all. That's certainly not the definition of "done for".


Confidence isn’t exactly part of my nature as a Leafs fans… but this isn’t the Leafs! It would be more impressive at this point for Florida to win and avoid the embarrassment. They are definitely in big trouble.
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Jun. 21 at 11:06 p.m.
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Quoting: DougieGilmour
A whole lot of you weren’t alive the last time a Canadian team won the cup were you?


Nope not even close
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Jun. 21 at 11:08 p.m.
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Quoting: V123
Nope not even close


I’ll take a seat in my nursing home now.
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Jun. 21 at 11:09 p.m.
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Stuart Skinner is a different kind of man when EDM is put against the wall.

In games 4-7 in the playoffs the dude is 10-0-0 with SV% over .940 and GAA less than 1.5.

Bro's pulling the new Adin Hill here.
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Jun. 21 at 11:13 p.m.
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Edited Jun. 21 at 11:38 p.m.
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Every Panther skater aside from Barkov needs to figure out how to pull their head out of their ass like now. No more margin for error, they need to remember they're good and stop panicking every time they have the puck. They are in their own heads and they need to snap out of it.


Verheage especially mans actively costing FLA by overthinking plays

Good example is PP has it overthink and its cleared when he easily could have shot it
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Jun. 21 at 11:33 p.m.
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What if we just dont make a new thread in protest of capfriendly being bought or smth
Jun. 21 at 11:53 p.m.
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What if we just dont make a new thread in protest of capfriendly being bought or smth


I'd rather enjoy the last couple of weeks of community that we have here.
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Jun. 22 at 12:22 a.m.
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What if we just dont make a new thread in protest of capfriendly being bought or smth


I'm not closing this one. This one's gonna go for miles.
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Jun. 22 at 12:39 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Verheage especially mans actively costing FLA by overthinking plays

Good example is PP has it overthink and its cleared when he easily could have shot it


OMG he was a mess tonight.
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Jun. 22 at 12:39 a.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Stuart Skinner is a different kind of man when EDM is put against the wall.

In games 4-7 in the playoffs the dude is 10-0-0 with SV% over .940 and GAA less than 1.5.

Bro's pulling the new Adin Hill here.


The late Reinhart stop was huge.
Jun. 22 at 12:50 a.m.
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OMG he was a mess tonight.


Maurice also needs to start when his team is down mixing things up rather than just rolling the same things out over and over. Like try chucky with Barkov lul
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Jun. 22 at 1:38 a.m.
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Maurice also needs to start when his team is down mixing things up rather than just rolling the same things out over and over. Like try chucky with Barkov lul


He's always been a rather vanilla coach, at least in game. The Blues ate up his inability or unwillingness to adapt to start their Cup run. The players are going to have to win this.
Jun. 22 at 2:36 a.m.
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McDavid is junk. No way he scores 5 points to catch Gretzky
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Jun. 22 at 12:29 p.m.
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Whatever happened to "it's gotta be egregious to overturn the call on the ice"


That has basically never been the standard, the standard basically always has been conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the ice, it doesn't need to be egregiously offside, you just need to see that the guy entered the zone before the puck, even if it's by a small margin. That said, I have yet to see an angle where Barkov's goal was conclusively offside
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Jun. 22 at 12:34 p.m.
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That has basically never been the standard, the standard basically always has been conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the ice, it doesn't need to be egregiously offside, you just need to see that the guy entered the zone before the puck, even if it's by a small margin. That said, I have yet to see an angle where Barkov's goal was conclusively offside


Yeah. It's more the case with goalie interference where egregious and conclusive kinda blur together, I got my wires crossed.
The over head angle looks pretty clear cut.
Jun. 22 at 1:12 p.m.
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That has basically never been the standard, the standard basically always has been conclusive evidence to overturn the call on the ice, it doesn't need to be egregiously offside, you just need to see that the guy entered the zone before the puck, even if it's by a small margin. That said, I have yet to see an angle where Barkov's goal was conclusively offside


Apparently there's a frame only the one ice officials and room have that Maurice said shows it being conclusively offside and they plan to send it to him. Yet every frame and angle we saw shows otherwise

How about the NHL post said frame with an explanation why they called it offside like they do with suspensions. Heck do that with other types of overturned goals people would be okay with that

No no thats to hard and its private info.....

This is why the game dont grow and were left baffled lul
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Jun. 22 at 2:42 p.m.
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With Dallas' cap situation and priorities of re-signing Harley, Tanev, and Duchene...they have to be buying out Faksa and Suter, right? It just doesn't make any sense to keep them next season, even if Nill likes them.
Jun. 22 at 3:54 p.m.
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According to my calculations, EDM had a 10% chance of forcing a game 7 and a 4% chance of winning the Cup after losing game 3. This calculation suggests they had a 50% chance of winning at home and a 40% chance on the road. Some may think they were better than 50/50 at home but they may have been worse than 40/60 on the road.
Jun. 22 at 3:56 p.m.
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With Dallas' cap situation and priorities of re-signing Harley, Tanev, and Duchene...they have to be buying out Faksa and Suter, right? It just doesn't make any sense to keep them next season, even if Nill likes them.


Would a Faksa buyout help? It's only a 900k saving next year. A 13th forward is gonna cost you 775k.
Jun. 22 at 3:58 p.m.
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According to my calculations, EDM had a 10% chance of forcing a game 7 and a 4% chance of winning the Cup after losing game 3. This calculation suggests they had a 50% chance of winning at home and a 40% chance on the road. Some may think they were better than 50/50 at home but they may have been worse than 40/60 on the road.


How you calculating that? Some pretty arbitrary numbers there. Did you factor in the Skinner coefficient? Multiply by McDavids constant? The Bobrovsky gradient?
Jun. 22 at 4:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Rangsey
Would a Faksa buyout help? It's only a 900k saving next year. A 13th forward is gonna cost you 775k.


I think it would. If we keep Tanev and Duchene, it's the difference between carrying a 13th forward or 7th defenseman or not. Cap space is going to be tight for the Stars if we can keep our priority FA's.

Also will be interested to see what they do for a backup for Oettinger. Wedgewood is clearly not the guy.
Jun. 22 at 6:04 p.m.
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According to my calculations, EDM had a 10% chance of forcing a game 7 and a 4% chance of winning the Cup after losing game 3. This calculation suggests they had a 50% chance of winning at home and a 40% chance on the road. Some may think they were better than 50/50 at home but they may have been worse than 40/60 on the road.


According to history (i.e., what has actually happened in past best-of-7 NHL playoff series), it was more like a 4 or 5% chance of forcing game 7 and a 2% chance of winning the series. Of course, their chance of winning are much better than that now.
Jun. 22 at 7:55 p.m.
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I got a feeling Rutger McGroarty is gonna get traded to TOR

Especially after the latest WPG report and his old interview resurfaced

Like WPG has some leverage but he can be a UFA in 2 years so times ticking
Jun. 22 at 9:23 p.m.
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Quoting: jr400
According to history (i.e., what has actually happened in past best-of-7 NHL playoff series), it was more like a 4 or 5% chance of forcing game 7 and a 2% chance of winning the series. Of course, their chance of winning are much better than that now.


In order for it to be a 4-5% chance of forcing a game 7 EDM would’ve had to have a 16-20% chance of winning each game on average (games 4-6). Obviously, they had a much better chance than that, especially the two home games.

And just b/c something happens once in 20 times doesn’t mean there’s a 5% chance. You can flip a coin 20 times and never land on tails.
 
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