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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 13, 2024
Published: Apr. 13, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Let's assume Habs first-round pick is between 4-6 overall, and the Jets pick is 20-24 overall
Trades
1.
STL
  1. 2024 1st round pick (WPG)
  2. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
4-6 overall
20-24 overall
2.
MTL
  1. 2024 7th round pick (CGY)
3.
MTL
  1. 2024 5th round pick (CHI)
SJS
  1. Kovacevic, Johnathan
  2. 2024 7th round pick (CGY)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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Logo of the CGY
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Logo of the PIT
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Logo of the VAN
Logo of the MTL
Logo of the DET
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$83,500,000$71,904,582$1,170,000$4,310,000$11,595,418
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$835,833$835,833
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$835,000$835,000 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$775,000$775,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$775,000$775,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$867,500$867,500 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$950,000$950,000
LD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3

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Apr. 13 at 7:03 a.m.
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even if the value is there, I don't see ST Louis doing this. neighbours is young enough where he can stick around for a rebuild and is at the least a proven piece compared to those picks
Apr. 13 at 7:10 a.m.
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even if the value is there, I don't see ST Louis doing this. neighbours is young enough where he can stick around for a rebuild and is at the least a proven piece compared to those picks


ok. but IMO the Blues would really value taking one of the top ranked dmen with that 4-6 pick.
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Apr. 13 at 7:24 a.m.
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Hilarious that Habs fans, who insist that they wouldn't give up pick 5 - 7 for Trevor Zegras (who had recorded over 100 points by his 130th game), would give up that pick PLUS the Winnipeg first for Jake Neighbours, who has 50 points at that same milestone.

Montreal's pick can only be 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9.
Apr. 13 at 8:31 a.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Hilarious that Habs fans, who insist that they wouldn't give up pick 5 - 7 for Trevor Zegras (who had recorded over 100 points by his 130th game), would give up that pick PLUS the Winnipeg first for Jake Neighbours, who has 50 points at that same milestone.

Montreal's pick can only be 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9.


This gentleman opinion is not representing the fanbase.
That would be horrible for MTL
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Apr. 13 at 8:34 a.m.
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No need to waste assets to dump Dvo. He’s been good since his return. If he’s good enough next year, he will have a positive value at the TDL. If he can’t bounce back, he’ll just leave as a UFA.
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Apr. 13 at 9:05 a.m.
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No need to waste assets to dump Dvo. He’s been good since his return. If he’s good enough next year, he will have a positive value at the TDL. If he can’t bounce back, he’ll just leave as a UFA.


Wish I could like this comment twice.
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Apr. 13 at 9:41 a.m.
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I don't think the Blues are in a position to give up promising NHL stars for draft picks right now. Maybe if this were a couple years ago, but not now.
Apr. 13 at 10:20 a.m.
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As a Blues fan, I really would hate to give up Neighbours, but then again, we can probably not say no to an offer like this.

Can't imagine the Habs offering this though.
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Apr. 13 at 10:49 a.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Hilarious that Habs fans, who insist that they wouldn't give up pick 5 - 7 for Trevor Zegras (who had recorded over 100 points by his 130th game), would give up that pick PLUS the Winnipeg first for Jake Neighbours, who has 50 points at that same milestone.

Montreal's pick can only be 1, 2, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9.


I see Jake Neighbours as a much better, complete player than Zegras, that's why.
Good point about the pick. Ok, lets assume 5 or 6 then.
Apr. 13 at 10:51 a.m.
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Quoting: Jobob77
No need to waste assets to dump Dvo. He’s been good since his return. If he’s good enough next year, he will have a positive value at the TDL. If he can’t bounce back, he’ll just leave as a UFA.


Yea, eh, kinda agree. He's not even a 4M dollar player. But ya I guess
Apr. 13 at 10:57 a.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
I see Jake Neighbours as a much better, complete player than Zegras, that's why.
Good point about the pick. Ok, lets assume 5 or 6 then.

On the basis of what, exactly? His -37 to date versus Zegras' -27 at the same point in his career?
Apr. 13 at 11:05 a.m.
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On the basis of what, exactly? His -37 to date versus Zegras' -27 at the same point in his career?


not so much statistical. But JN is a goalscorer who goes into corners and comes out with the puck, then he plays in the middle of the ice. He's also a very physical competitor in puck battles.
TZ is a perimeter playmaker who avoids physicality. Yes he has great vision, great puck skills, but I don't like his compete as much as JN. And although its impossible to tell from my keyboard and TV, I'm just not a fan of the flashy stuff. His social media will hinder him I think. Just my thoughts.
Apr. 13 at 11:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Ste_Catherine_Street
not so much statistical. But JN is a goalscorer who goes into corners and comes out with the puck, then he plays in the middle of the ice. He's also a very physical competitor in puck battles.
TZ is a perimeter playmaker who avoids physicality. Yes he has great vision, great puck skills, but I don't like his compete as much as JN. And although its impossible to tell from my keyboard and TV, I'm just not a fan of the flashy stuff. His social media will hinder him I think. Just my thoughts.

Do you think that McDavid, MacKinnon, Kucherov and Panarin are good because they are flashy, or because they are not flashy?

Juraj Slafkovsky and Neighbours are at a similar point in the upward arc of their careers -- here are the three youngsters' first full seasons:
Neighbours: 77* games, 27 goals, 11 assists = 38 points, -16 (* 2 games remaining)
Slafkovsky: 79* games, 19 goals, 29 assists = 48 points, -19 (* 3 games remaining)
Zegras: 75 games, 23 goals, 38 assists = 61 points, -21

Slafkovsky turned 20 during his first full season and had 39 NHL games prior to it
Zegras turned 21 during his first full season and had 24 NHL games prior to it
Neighbors turned 22 during his first full season and had 52 NHL games prior to it

Now, I'm not about to predict, or even suggest, which one is going to have the greater, or longer, or more successful career. My point is the converse: that from what (little) we've seen so far, there is no fact-based reason to assert with any confidence that either Neighbours or Slafkovsky will ultimately turn out to be a more impactful player than Zegras.
Apr. 13 at 11:23 a.m.
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It’s fair but I doubt the blues do it right now

Just no point too
Apr. 13 at 11:26 a.m.
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Absolutely bonkers trade for MTL. Makes literally no sense to do. He's a solid player but his skill set is not what is needed at that high of a cost. They need a play driver with those picks if they are going to trade them.
Apr. 14 at 8:16 a.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Do you think that McDavid, MacKinnon, Kucherov and Panarin are good because they are flashy, or because they are not flashy?

Juraj Slafkovsky and Neighbours are at a similar point in the upward arc of their careers -- here are the three youngsters' first full seasons:
Neighbours: 77* games, 27 goals, 11 assists = 38 points, -16 (* 2 games remaining)
Slafkovsky: 79* games, 19 goals, 29 assists = 48 points, -19 (* 3 games remaining)
Zegras: 75 games, 23 goals, 38 assists = 61 points, -21

Slafkovsky turned 20 during his first full season and had 39 NHL games prior to it
Zegras turned 21 during his first full season and had 24 NHL games prior to it
Neighbors turned 22 during his first full season and had 52 NHL games prior to it

Now, I'm not about to predict, or even suggest, which one is going to have the greater, or longer, or more successful career. My point is the converse: that from what (little) we've seen so far, there is no fact-based reason to assert with any confidence that either Neighbours or Slafkovsky will ultimately turn out to be a more impactful player than Zegras.


Short answer, obviously the league elites are flashy.
Long answer, you need a lot of nonflashy guys to win with. OReilly, Bergeron, Danault, etc. I'm not putting these guys in the same group, but when you can't find Elite players you need as many of these as you can find. Bergeron was Elite, but not flashy. More impactful? yes I like JN, yes I think he can be more 'impactful' than Zegras.
 
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