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Elvis

Created by: JarvisforSelke
Team: 2023-24 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 16, 2024
Published: Jan. 16, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
CAR
  1. Merzlikins, Elvis ($2,700,000 retained)
CBJ
  1. Deangelo, Anthony
  2. Montgomery, Bryce [Reserve List]
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
  4. 2024 3rd round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
Deangelo+2nd+3rd+ A prospect seems like a fair deal for Elvis at 50% retained
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$79,129,417$450,000$500,000$4,370,583
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
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$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,820,000$4,820,000
C
UFA - 7
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$2,400,000$2,400,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 4
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
C
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
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UFA - 2
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$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
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UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
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UFA - 4
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,700,000$2,700,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$7,750,000$7,750,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
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M-NTC
UFA - 2

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Jan. 17 at 10:58 a.m.
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Quoting: seanrushton
San Jose ate $2.7m a year for three years on the Brent Burns contract which is close to what I'm asking the Jackets to do and the Canes gave the sharks a bunch of table scraps for Burns


That was 34% of a 3 year contract, for a team heading into a rebuild. You're asking us to retain 50% on a 4 year contract, for a team (trying to) head out of a rebuild. Even if the value is similar, it's not the same thing. And yes, SJ got table scraps. That's about what we're asking for too.

Quoting: squashmaple
Not for that long, and that's where we're balking. I'm going to need you to point to one example where a team retained 50% of a contract over 5 million for more than three full seasons.


To be fair...the Flyers retained 50% on Kevin Hayes $7M+ contract for three full seasons for a 6th, but that was also when we thought Philly was heading into a rebuild. That's the only one I could find going back to 2018. That's still only 3 full seasons.
Jan. 17 at 10:59 a.m.
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Quoting: seanrushton
"Deangelo isn’t a top 4 player on the jackets plus he’s a UFA"- He absolutely would be... He's better than Peeke or Gudbranson and and an extension could be worked out as part of the deal.


You've just shown he's a 3RD, which wow! He's one of about four options for 3RD on the Columbus roster. Congrats to him on being better than Gudbranson, Bean, Peeke, and Christiansen. So valuable. Fact remains he's not getting top four minutes on a roster with Jiricek and Severson (and Boqvist, who's PP1 QB). Columbus has no interest in or room for RD.

Quoting: seanrushton
San Jose ate $2.7m a year for three years on the Brent Burns contract which is close to what I'm asking the Jackets to do and the Canes gave the sharks a bunch of table scraps for Burns


Ah, yes, a player over 35 coming from a team just starting their rebuild for whom cap space was meaningless. I'll give you credit for finding an example, but it's not relevant here. Columbus is not just starting their rebuild, and has at least six important RFA's to pay in the next two seasons (Sillinger, Johnson, Chinakhov, Marchenko, and Voronkov... plus Fantilli and Jiricek in '26). We're not asking for anything in return for Elvis. We just don't want to retain til 2027. That 2.7 million is Chinakhov's money.
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Jan. 17 at 11:03 a.m.
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Quoting: CaseyFlyman
That was 34% of a 3 year contract, for a team heading into a rebuild. You're asking us to retain 50% on a 4 year contract, for a team (trying to) head out of a rebuild. Even if the value is similar, it's not the same thing. And yes, SJ got table scraps. That's about what we're asking for too.



To be fair...the Flyers retained 50% on Kevin Hayes $7M+ contract for three full seasons for a 6th, but that was also when we thought Philly was heading into a rebuild. That's the only one I could find going back to 2018. That's still only 3 full seasons.


It's 3 1/2 years not 4... and you guys aren't going to be competing in that 3 1/2 years unless you guys have a bunch of in-house solutions for all of those problems that I'm not aware of... you guys still need 2 to 3 top-6 wingers, 2 to 3 top-4 defensemen and a legit #1 goaltender... and everybody is going to be on either cheap ELCs or RFA deals (with a few notable exceptions)... you guys will have the cap space
Jan. 17 at 11:08 a.m.
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Quoting: squashmaple
You've just shown he's a 3RD, which wow! He's one of about four options for 3RD on the Columbus roster. Congrats to him on being better than Gudbranson, Bean, Peeke, and Christiansen. So valuable. Fact remains he's not getting top four minutes on a roster with Jiricek and Severson (and Boqvist, who's PP1 QB). Columbus has no interest in or room for RD.



Ah, yes, a player over 35 coming from a team just starting their rebuild for whom cap space was meaningless. I'll give you credit for finding an example, but it's not relevant here. Columbus is not just starting their rebuild, and has at least six important RFA's to pay in the next two seasons (Sillinger, Johnson, Chinakhov, Marchenko, and Voronkov... plus Fantilli and Jiricek in '26). We're not asking for anything in return for Elvis. We just don't want to retain til 2027. That 2.7 million is Chinakhov's money.


"six important RFA's to pay in the next two seasons (Sillinger, Johnson, Chinakhov, Marchenko, and Voronkov... plus Fantilli and Jiricek in '26)."- Columbus doesn't need to be the team to retain the $2.7m... you can dump it on San Jose, Chicago, or another bottom feeder but the cap hit on the Canes really needs to be less than $3m
Jan. 17 at 11:10 a.m.
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Quoting: seanrushton
It's 3 1/2 years not 4... and you guys aren't going to be competing in that 3 1/2 years unless you guys have a bunch of in-house solutions for all of those problems that I'm not aware of... you guys still need 2 to 3 top-6 wingers, 2 to 3 top-4 defensemen and a legit #1 goaltender


We do, though?

Top-6 wingers: Marchenko, Johnson, Gaudreau, Laine*, Chinakhov, Brindley** (*when healthy, **if he's as good in the NHL as he is at world juniors/college level)
Top-4 D: Werenski, Severson, Jiricek, Mateychuk
#1 Goalie: Tarasov or (more likely) Greaves, who has the best GSAx/60 in the NHL for two years running. AHL All-Star with a .911 SV%.

Right now most of them are U23, but they'll be NHLers by age 26 easily.
Jan. 17 at 11:15 a.m.
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Quoting: CaseyFlyman
We do, though?

Top-6 wingers: Marchenko, Johnson, Gaudreau, Laine*, Chinakhov, Brindley** (*when healthy, **if he's as good in the NHL as he is at world juniors/college level)
Top-4 D: Werenski, Severson, Jiricek, Mateychuk
#1 Goalie: Tarasov or (more likely) Greaves, who has the best GSAx/60 in the NHL for two years running. AHL All-Star with a .911 SV%.

Right now most of them are U23, but they'll be NHLers by age 26 easily.


Laine wants out if I remember correctly.
Gaudreau has been disappointing

Even if they all pan out you going to have a hard time competing with the Canes/Devils in the long term considering the prospects that both have in the pipeline... Bradly Nadeau, Alexander Nikishin, Seamus Casey, and Josh Filmon
Jan. 17 at 11:24 a.m.
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Laine wants out if I remember correctly.
Gaudreau has been disappointing

Even if they all pan out you going to have a hard time competing with the Canes/Devils in the long term considering the prospects that both have in the pipeline... Bradly Nadeau, Alexander Nikishin, Seamus Casey, and Josh Filmon


I mean, what are we even doing here anymore? The whole point was Columbus doesn't want to retain because we think we're ready to compete in the next 2-4 years. If the Canes say no because they want significant retention, we're done here. I'm not about to get into "your team bad because prospects bad, my team good because good now and prospects good"
 
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