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Mar. 22 at 11:09 a.m.
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I want to believe it is the start of a streak. I want to believe that we are this year's Panthers.


Look at the Preds since they didn't go to the U2 show in Vegas! Nine and three enough to get it done?
Mar. 25 at 9:57 a.m.
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Look at the Preds since they didn't go to the U2 show in Vegas! Nine and three enough to get it done?


We need help with teams falling apart, plus the Devils need to play better against teams under .500 (see the Ottawa game).
Mar. 25 at 10:33 a.m.
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Pierre LeBrun conversation with Tom Fitzgerald below.

My takeaways…it’s definitely not all goalie or bust. Improving and developing the defense, primarily to control puck, is still first and highest priority. Adding some heavies on the wing seems like it will be a focus in off-season. And goalie hunt will be not be limited to “big game”.

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LeBrun: What’s gone wrong for Devils, and how to fix it? Catching up with Tom Fitzgerald.



MANALAPAN, Fla. — Tom Fitzgerald sat back in his chair and pondered the question, facial expressions preceding the words that came out.

Words about a New Jersey Devils season that began with such high expectations. And about a young team learning to deal with those expectations and adversity. And about why it’s sometimes difficult for teams to take that next step.

“It’s hard. It’s not a place where we thought we would be,” the Devils president of hockey operations and general manager said candidly as he began a chat with The Athletic last week at the GMs meetings. “We knew we would take a step back in certain areas, but with the belief that the lack of experience on the back end would pay forward with the experience these young kids are getting this year.

“We live with their mistakes. We think they’re going to be great young defensemen in this league sooner rather than later. But the reality is they’re young.”

The comment was about a young blue-line group, in general, but obviously, a pair of 20-year-old future stars are playing huge minutes for the Devils: Luke Hughes is leading the team with more than 21 minutes per night, and Simon Nemec is not that far behind at just over 20 minutes a game.

In no way does Fitzgerald see it as a bad thing. Both Hughes and Nemec will be better for it. But in the here and now, there are times when relying on two rookies — even uber-talented ones — hasn’t made for a smooth ride.

“We expected to take a step back, but with the anticipation that we would take two steps forward, and really taking this experience and paying it forward with more experience,” Fitzgerald said. “They’re going to get better. And the sky’s the limit with the two young defensemen in particular. We think the world of them.”

What’s interesting is that this is where the Devils GM took the conversation on his own after being asked generally about a tough season for his team. Most would have expected him to mention the team’s goaltending struggles first. But perhaps that’s a tired subject. Others might have also mentioned the team’s injuries, losing No. 1 blueliner Dougie Hamilton 20 games into the season was something the team never recovered from.

But Fitzgerald doesn’t want to use injuries as a key excuse, although obviously they played a role to some degree.

“It throws your rhythm off — continuity,” he said. “Last year, we didn’t have any (injuries), or hardly any. It’s real. Injuries are real. But it’s absolutely not the reason why we’re in this place scratching and clawing trying to get into the playoffs.

“I just think there’s a lot of areas we needed to be better.”

As the Devils GM noted, his team is still fighting and hasn’t given up on the playoff race. But as far as those areas where they needed to get better?

“Every team identifies those areas, whether it’s your play away from the puck, checking, defending, the front of the net, not giving up as many high-end, quality chances,” he said. “We’ll get our chances, but what are we giving up?

“I believe it’s only going to make us stronger with an understanding of, ‘Wow, this is what we need to do. This is how committed we need to be. We want to be those teams that we play that are extremely tough to play against.”’

Think about the metamorphosis that the Florida Panthers went through, going from a high-flying, offensive machine two years ago to a more balanced, playoff-style, responsible two-way team today. I think that’s what Fitzgerald hopes to see from his Devils team as they continue their evolution. They’ve got the talent. But can they learn how to win the proper way?

Getting more saves would help. And newly acquired Jake Allen got off to a good start on that front after coming over from Montreal on March 8.

It does make you wonder where New Jersey might be in the standings had a goalie upgrade arrived earlier, but it certainly wasn’t for a lack of trying. There’s a reason there are so few midseason goalie trades around the league.

“Well, we’ve been in the goalie market the majority of this year, for certain goalies that we felt were on the market,” said Fitzgerald, whose pursuit of Calgary No. 1 Jacob Markstrom was well-publicized. “You know, going into the season — and you look at what possibly was available last summer — teams weren’t trading me their goalies, either.”

The Devils and Jets did have a conversation or two over Connor Hellebuyck last summer, but obviously that never got to where it needed to go. The Jets ultimately wanted to keep him anyway if at all possible. And the other thing to remember about last summer is that Vitek Vanecek was coming off a season as the Devils’ No. 1 where his 33 wins were tied for seventh in the NHL with Juuse Saros — one win behind Andrei Vasilevskiy, one ahead of Ilya Sorokin.

No one’s confusing Vanecek with any of those guys, of course. He was a 1B having a decent year. But it’s just a reminder that the Devils didn’t feel nearly as desperate last summer as they would eventually get this season once Vanecek’s play deteriorated and eventually the goalie got hurt.

All of which put 23-year-old goalies Akira Schmid and Nico Daws in a tough spot, and neither was able to grab the job and run with it.

“We love what we saw in Schmid,” Fitzgerald said of the goalie who came in and had a .921 save percentage in nine playoff games last season for the Devils. “Maybe we got a little ahead of ourselves with a young goalie.”

The Devils had kept tabs with Montreal on Allen, while at the same time fishing for a bigger target in Markstrom and kicking the tires on Saros in Nashville among others.

Allen had to waive his modified no-trade to go to New Jersey, and part of making him feel comfortable doing that was Fitzgerald communicating that he envisions Allen being part of a veteran 1-2 punch next season if New Jersey can go out and get it done for a bigger name in goal.

Easier said than done, of course, going out this summer and finally getting Markstrom or Saros or someone of that top-10 stature.

“There’s zero guarantees, and it’s nice to have a plan and check a box, (but) goalies have to be available to actually have a market,” Fitzgerald said. “If they are, certain teams know that we will be in the market for those certain types of goalies. And Jake Allen understands what we are trying to do, although again there’s no guarantees.

“But yeah, that’s how we set things up.”

So can Flames GM Craig Conroy expect to hear again from Fitzgerald this offseason?

“Not just Craig,” Fitzgerald replied with a chuckle.

It was no laughing matter when Fitzgerald made a coaching change on March 4, firing veteran Lindy Ruff and replacing him on an interim basis with associate coach Travis Green, the former Canucks bench boss.

That was a tough, tough moment for Fitzgerald, given the work Ruff had done helping develop the team’s young core.

“I love Lindy Ruff,” Fitzgerald said. “I bought him in for a certain reason. He checked all those boxes. When this team does hit their mark, Lindy’s fingerprints will be all over it for how he handled these players when they were younger. And how he molded them and allowed them to become the offensive players that we drafted.”

But — and there’s obviously a but when someone ends up fired — the Devils have entered a different phase of their growth.

“As we grow, there are things that I want to see change,” Fitzgerald said. “This isn’t on Lindy. This is on me as a manager. I think great players take accountability, as well, and responsibility. I just felt — we want to be a team that can play off the rush like we were last year, but teams defended us differently this year. They didn’t want to get into a track meet with us.

“I wanted to see us become that type of team: be more mature with the puck, getting pucks in deep, clock management — just certain things. We kept shooting ourselves in the foot. I just wanted to see some habits that could change.”

The timing of the coaching change, so late in the regular season, is reflective of the fact that Fitzgerald still believed the season could be salvaged.

“Oh yeah. We did,” he said. “Travis is different than Lindy. There’s not one coach that’s the same. I’ve seen some things that I’ve liked.

“As many missing pieces as we may have out of the lineup, playing to a different identity is possible. And it’s a must, to be quite honest.”

Again, Fitzgerald hasn’t given up on this season, but regardless of how it finishes, he’s got an idea (outside of goaltending) where he’s going to look to tinker with his lineup.

“We’ve got a lot of skill,” he said. “We really do. I’d like to get a little harder.”

The team lost Miles Wood to free agency last summer and then lost Michael McLeod, who was charged with sexual assault in London, Ontario. Hockey-wise, the team hasn’t been able to replace what those guys brought on the ice.

So that will be an offseason focus.

“Get harder on the wing,” Fitzgerald said. “We’ve got enough talent for offense, but the game is still physical. You got to take hits to make plays. I want a team that is committed to playing through guys, not just circling off guys.

“And (players) who will allow our guys some time and space, because when guys in our league have time and space, they can make great plays. … Those are characteristics in certain players that I will be looking for.”

So an important offseason is coming again for a team that still has a bright future. But also a team that needs to pick itself off the mat if this season does likely end up with it out of the playoff mix.

It hasn’t been easy for Fitzgerald to digest, but he’s trying to keep it in perspective.

“I’m a passionate person,” said Fitzgerald, who signed a multiyear contract extension in January and got promoted to president of hockey operations with it. “I’ve got my convictions, and I’m as highly a competitor as the next guy. It’s not easy. It’s not easy. It’s my job to build this team around the pillars that we have. … And help them not piss away good years of their career by not being a playoff team. That’s my job.

“But the reality is — and I say this all the time — there are times where work is a little rough. Life is great. My life is great. Sometimes work is a little rough. But you manage that. I’ve got great support in my family, great support from ownership and our CEO Tad Brown.

“But at the end of the day, it’s my job to put the best team on the ice with an identity that I want our team and our fans to be proud of.”
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Mar. 26 at 9:18 a.m.
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Arseni Gritsyuk’s season is over after SKA elimination. Let’s get him to NA.
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Mar. 26 at 11:34 a.m.
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Arseni Gritsyuk’s season is over after SKA elimination. Let’s get him to NA.


WHERE WOULD THEY PUT HIM?
Mar. 26 at 1:24 p.m.
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WHERE WOULD THEY PUT HIM?


Utica
Mar. 26 at 2:50 p.m.
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WHERE WOULD THEY PUT HIM?


Doesn’t matter for 2023-24. Just get him signed.
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Mar. 27 at 12:04 a.m.
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Another day, another sub 0.900 performance for Markstrom. This time against the powerhouse Chicago blackhawks
Mar. 27 at 8:50 a.m.
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Another day, another sub 0.900 performance for Markstrom. This time against the powerhouse Chicago blackhawks


I wouldn't want Markstrom. He's over 30 and makes 6 million for the next two years.
Mar. 27 at 10:57 a.m.
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Another day, another sub 0.900 performance for Markstrom. This time against the powerhouse Chicago blackhawks


Maybe by accident Fitzy looking good here!
Mar. 27 at 11:57 a.m.
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Maybe by accident Fitzy looking good here!


I’ve been saying all year, just because a goalie has been playing well so far doesn’t guarantee he’ll be any good going forward. Jake Markstrom is who is, which is a goalie who has been great in 2 years, and actively a part of the reason his team missed the playoffs the other 2
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Mar. 27 at 1:10 p.m.
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I’ve been saying all year, just because a goalie has been playing well so far doesn’t guarantee he’ll be any good going forward. Jake Markstrom is who is, which is a goalie who has been great in 2 years, and actively a part of the reason his team missed the playoffs the other 2


Since Markstrom rumor surfaced....

Name….........GP --- SV% -- GAA

Daws….............9 -- 0.859 -- 3.45
Schmid…..........4 -- 0.905 -- 2.65
Markstrom….12 -- 0.895 -- 3.08
Allen…..............6 -- 0.925 -- 2.51
Kahkonen....….3 -- 0.934 -- 2.17

Combined…........GP --- SV% -- GAA

Allen/Kahkonen….9 -- 0.928 -- 2.41
Markstrom….......12 -- 0.895 -- 3.08
Mar. 27 at 1:19 p.m.
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Since Markstrom rumor surfaced....

Name….........GP --- SV% -- GAA

Daws….............9 -- 0.859 -- 3.45
Schmid…..........4 -- 0.905 -- 2.65
Markstrom….12 -- 0.895 -- 3.08
Allen…..............6 -- 0.925 -- 2.51
Kahkonen....….3 -- 0.934 -- 2.17

Combined…........GP --- SV% -- GAA

Allen/Kahkonen….9 -- 0.928 -- 2.41
Markstrom….......12 -- 0.895 -- 3.08


I have bet a fellow Devs fan we would have a new starter this summer. He says we keep these two. My response was Fitzy cant go into another season (5-6 now I think) not having one. The bet is a pair of tix to a game next year. I feel pretty confident but I'll be great with wondering if I screwed up if these two pull playoff magic outta a hat. I think Conroy had a fish on with Markey at TDL and it spit the hook!
Mar. 27 at 1:28 p.m.
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I have bet a fellow Devs fan we would have a new starter this summer. He says we keep these two. My response was Fitzy cant go into another season (5-6 now I think) not having one. The bet is a pair of tix to a game next year. I feel pretty confident but I'll be great with wondering if I screwed up if these two pull playoff magic outta a hat. I think Conroy had a fish on with Markey at TDL and it spit the hook!


The wild thing is frankly lately is the worst our defense have looked all year by far. Like just constant high danger chances, way more shots against, way more odd man rushes. I swear vitek would have had a 6 GAA in the games Allen and Kahkonen have played
Mar. 29 at 6:40 p.m.
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Calgary Puck Insiders…

Late February: “Mercer, Holtz, Vanecek, Casey, 24 1st”….was…”the return the Devils offered for Markstrom with 50% retention“

Late March: “I believe the Devils can probably get Markstrom more akin to what they were offering which I still believe was Holtz and a 2025 1st (protected). They might even be able to get him for Holtz and a 2nd, I have no idea.”

Same guy
Mar. 29 at 6:48 p.m.
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Calgary Puck Insiders…

Late February: “Mercer, Holtz, Vanecek, Casey, 24 1st”….was…”the return the Devils offered for Markstrom with 50% retention“

Late March: “I believe the Devils can probably get Markstrom more akin to what they were offering which I still believe was Holtz and a 2025 1st (protected). They might even be able to get him for Holtz and a 2nd, I have no idea.”

Same guy


Have yet to see a single mention or acknowledgment of Markstrom’s significant decline in play over there.

You’d think a fanbase would notice a goalie going from Vezina caliber saving a goal over expectation per game to sub 0.880
Mar. 29 at 6:58 p.m.
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Have yet to see a single mention or acknowledgment of Markstrom’s significant decline in play over there.

You’d think a fanbase would notice a goalie going from Vezina caliber saving a goal over expectation per game to sub 0.880


Amazing how they disregard what every hockey observer was saying and bought what a few guys on their forums were saying.

One guy was leading everyone to believe it was a monster package, is now saying “Holtz and 2nd”. The other insider now says, “Mercer was never put on the table however” (that was the guy who said he would quit being insiderrrr if Markstrom is in Calgary at end of year)
Mar. 29 at 10:18 p.m.
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Seasons over💔
Mar. 29 at 10:30 p.m.
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Seasons over💔


Been over for weeks…
Mar. 29 at 10:31 p.m.
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Shoot the puck
Mar. 29 at 11:25 p.m.
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Devils lost
Comets lost
Casey hurt

Tell me something good
Mar. 30 at 12:11 a.m.
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Three GMs in Providence today (for BC/Michigan Tech and Quinnipiac/Wisconsin)

Kyle Dubas (PIT)
Bill Armstrong (ARI)
Tom Fitzgerald (NJD)


Notable undrafted free agents at those games

Quinnipiac
Collin Graf (Jr, RW)
Jacob Quillan (Jr, C)
Mason Marcellus (Fr, C)
Travis Treloar (Sr, C)
Jayden Lee (Sr, RHD)
Cristophe Tellier (Jr, LW)
Vinny Duplessis (Sr, G)

Wisconsin
Christian Fitzgerald (So, C)
Kyle McClellan (Jr, G)
Simon Tassy (SO, RW)

Boston College
Jacob Bengtsson (Gr, LHD)
Lukas Gustafsson (So, LHD)

Michigan Tech
Blake Pietila (Gr, G)
Ryland Mosley (Sr, LW)
Trevor Russell (Jr, RHD) (attended NJD development camp)

Graf would be a home run. Quillan, Bengtsson, Fitzgerald, or Pietila would be nice too.

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NJD has already added four NCAA players to organization
1. Andre Ghantous
2. Jordan Di Cicco
3. Mac Welsher
4. Michael Van Unen

Ghantous is the most notable...all are older prospects (24-25 years old)
Mar. 31 at 6:06 p.m.
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Three GMs in Providence today (for BC/Michigan Tech and Quinnipiac/Wisconsin)

Kyle Dubas (PIT)
Bill Armstrong (ARI)
Tom Fitzgerald (NJD)


Notable undrafted free agents at those games

Quinnipiac
Collin Graf (Jr, RW)
Jacob Quillan (Jr, C)
Mason Marcellus (Fr, C)
Travis Treloar (Sr, C)
Jayden Lee (Sr, RHD)
Cristophe Tellier (Jr, LW)
Vinny Duplessis (Sr, G)

Wisconsin
Christian Fitzgerald (So, C)
Kyle McClellan (Jr, G)
Simon Tassy (SO, RW)

Boston College
Jacob Bengtsson (Gr, LHD)
Lukas Gustafsson (So, LHD)

Michigan Tech
Blake Pietila (Gr, G)
Ryland Mosley (Sr, LW)
Trevor Russell (Jr, RHD) (attended NJD development camp)

Graf would be a home run. Quillan, Bengtsson, Fitzgerald, or Pietila would be nice too.

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NJD has already added four NCAA players to organization
1. Andre Ghantous
2. Jordan Di Cicco
3. Mac Welsher
4. Michael Van Unen

Ghantous is the most notable...all are older prospects (24-25 years old)


Should definitely try to go ALL IN on Graf and/or Quillan, our Center/Forward pipeline is garbage now, we need to start restocking
Mar. 31 at 7:27 p.m.
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Should definitely try to go ALL IN on Graf and/or Quillan, our Center/Forward pipeline is garbage now, we need to start restocking


Graf, 100%
Apr. 2 at 9:03 a.m.
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What is the add to SJ if we send Bastian there for Sturm? They have 5 Fwds that are UFAs this summer. Hoffman, Labanc and Barbabonov are notables. Sturm has 1 more yr @ $2M, Bastian 2 more at 1.35M. I s there anything to do, Sturm is 6th in FOs , a big body etc.
 
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