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PLD To COL

Created by: TheLand
Published: Jun. 8, 2023 at 10:30 a.m.
Salary Cap: $83,500,000
Season Days: 185/186 (99%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because one of the teams does not meet the minimum 3 goaltender requirement

Logo of the Colorado AvalancheColorado Avalanche

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Newhook, AlexColorado AvalancheNHL-$0011---0000--
Beaucage, AlexWaivers ExemptColorado AvalancheMinor-$0011---0000--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Colorado AvalancheCOL)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dubois, Pierre-LucWinnipeg JetsNHL-$0011---0000--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$13,350,0001226363110
Change$00-1-1-100
Final$13,350,0001225 (↓)35 (↓)2 (↓)110000

Logo of the Winnipeg JetsWinnipeg Jets

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Dubois, Pierre-LucWinnipeg JetsNHL-$0011---0000--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Newhook, AlexColorado AvalancheNHL-$0011---0000--
Beaucage, AlexWaivers ExemptColorado AvalancheMinor-$0011---0000--
2024 1st round pick (Logo of the Colorado AvalancheCOL)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$12,992,1431532443410
Change$0011100
Final$12,992,1431533 (↑)45 (↑)4 (↑)410000
Jun. 8, 2023 at 10:49 a.m.
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Note to Habs fans: This is the type of offer Winnipeg is likely to get for PLD as rental and what you'll have to beat to get him now.
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Jun. 8, 2023 at 1:52 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Note to Habs fans: This is the type of offer Winnipeg is likely to get for PLD as rental and what you'll have to beat to get him now.


if Avs do this, it is, PLD is not a rental to them imo
Jun. 8, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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Quoting: swissmontana
if Avs do this, it is, PLD is not a rental to them imo


A late 1st, bottom 6 roster player and a B prospect is a rental price.
Jun. 8, 2023 at 3:37 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
A late 1st, bottom 6 roster player and a B prospect is a rental price.


moreso: they are trying to resign him if they're giving up a 1st imo
Jun. 8, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.
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Quoting: swissmontana
moreso: they are trying to resign him if they're giving up a 1st imo


High end rentals fetch a late 1st and more all the time. Especially if you'll have them for the full year at a low AAV.
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Jun. 8, 2023 at 4:03 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
High end rentals fetch a late 1st and more all the time. Especially if you'll have them for the full year at a low AAV.


totally, just saying that the avs so few prospects and picks that they sort of have to attempt some term here
Jun. 8, 2023 at 10:34 p.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
Note to Habs fans: This is the type of offer Winnipeg is likely to get for PLD as rental and what you'll have to beat to get him now.


That what you call a good offer ?

#27 in 2023, an bottom 6 young guys in beaucage and an prospect who have show nothing earth breaking with average of 30 pts per year.

This is pretty similar as an trade of: #31/32 along Dvorak Kidney
Jun. 8, 2023 at 10:46 p.m.
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Quoting: EatMyScoobySnack
That what you call a good offer ?

#27 in 2023, an bottom 6 young guys in beaucage and an prospect who have show nothing earth breaking with average of 30 pts per year.

This is pretty similar as an trade of: #31/32 along Dvorak Kidney


I didn't say it was a good offer I said Winnipeg is likely to get offers like for rental PLD. What I really meant though was that's the minimum Montreal would have to beat. It certainly could be even more.

27 > 31
Newhook > Dvorak
Kidney > Beaucage but Kidney is nothing special
Jun. 9, 2023 at 12:05 a.m.
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Quoting: MoxNix
I didn't say it was a good offer I said Winnipeg is likely to get offers like for rental PLD. What I really meant though was that's the minimum Montreal would have to beat. It certainly could be even more.

27 > 31
Newhook > Dvorak
Kidney > Beaucage but Kidney is nothing special


4 spot on good draft its not that much difference but lets put a fifth round pick to counter balance between both pick, And while Newhook is young and have potentiel i play as third center and produce like one as Dvorak is able to do in an good team he's agreat third center that can play time on the second line and PK . And kidney may not be the prospect A but he's got good stats, he 210 pts in 126 game in QMJHL. Did produce an 22 pts this playoffs in 13 game. that an good potentiel on a third or second line and he's center.
Jun. 9, 2023 at 8:37 a.m.
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Edited Jun. 9, 2023 at 8:48 a.m.
Quoting: EatMyScoobySnack
4 spot on good draft its not that much difference but lets put a fifth round pick to counter balance between both pick, And while Newhook is young and have potentiel i play as third center and produce like one as Dvorak is able to do in an good team he's agreat third center that can play time on the second line and PK . And kidney may not be the prospect A but he's got good stats, he 210 pts in 126 game in QMJHL. Did produce an 22 pts this playoffs in 13 game. that an good potentiel on a third or second line and he's center.


No team is trading down 4 spots in the 1st round for a 5th. Especially not before the draft. Even at the draft moments before the higher pick is used it usually takes a 3rd to move up even just a few spots. At the 2020 draft Calgary moved down twice and picked up 2 3rds (one for each move down). Dropping 3 spots the first time and 2 spots the second time from 19th in the first place to 24th in the end where they selected Connor Zary.

Newhook and Dvorak are about the same when it comes to production both have had opportunities to be a second line center and were disappointing there. IOW they're both 3rd line centers. However Newhook is 5 years younger, makes a lot less money (nearly 5X less) and though he'll get a raise as an RFA right now he won't get that kind of money will be under team control for a while yet and still has potential to get better. Dvorak is overpaid UFA in 2 years and at 27 years old is about as good as he'll ever be.
 
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