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The real Winnipeg trade

Created by: jonh514
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 11, 2023
Published: May 11, 2023
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Connor is the only player in WPG I would really truly want. He's awesome, and if they are rebuilding, he might be available?
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$7,000,000
8$7,000,000
3$1,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Connor, Kyle
Additional Details:
IMO Connor is easily worth the 5 OA pick
WPG
  1. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
2.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. Roy, Joshua
Additional Details:
If you insist!
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$73,025,356$1,170,000$4,195,000$10,474,644
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 3
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
$7,000,000$7,000,000
C
UFA - 8
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$875,000$875,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3

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May 11, 2023 at 10:27 a.m.
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Jets counter with their 2023 1st and Scheifele for Caufield, Slaf, Dach and Suzuki
May 11, 2023 at 10:28 a.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Jets counter with their 2023 1st and Scheifele for Caufield, Slaf, Dach and Suzuki


Regarding which trade please?
May 11, 2023 at 10:29 a.m.
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Debrincat netted Chicago 7 OA, 39 OA, and a 3rd.

Connor is considerably better than Dubcat.
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May 11, 2023 at 10:30 a.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Debrincat netted Chicago 7 OA, 39 OA, and a 3rd.

Connor is considerably better than Dubcat.


Fair. But 7th in 2023 > 7th in 2022...

FWIW... I am ok adding
May 11, 2023 at 10:32 a.m.
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Regarding which trade please?


Yes
May 11, 2023 at 10:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Lenny7
Debrincat netted Chicago 7 OA, 39 OA, and a 3rd.

Connor is considerably better than Dubcat.


Michkov is considerably better than Korchinski. False equivalence is easy here.

Ignoring the fact that this draft is eons better in 2023 as opposed to 2022 is intellectually dishonest and lazy.
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May 11, 2023 at 10:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Michkov is considerably better than Korchinski. False equivalence is easy here.


I think it's fair to say.. add this or that late pick, I can understand why. But if we are 90% of the way to a deal... I would do it
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May 11, 2023 at 10:37 a.m.
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I think it's fair to say.. add this or that late pick, I can understand why. But if we are 90% of the way to a deal... I would do it


I am literally the last person here to overvalue draft picks. I definitely trade the 5th overall for Connor BUT my point was that ppl here will lie to themselves/others to prove a point and it makes discussion impossible
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May 11, 2023 at 10:39 a.m.
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Love Connor, not giving up Michkov, Smith or Carlsson for him though
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May 11, 2023 at 10:44 a.m.
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Love Connor, not giving up Michkov, Smith or Carlsson for him though


Smith has a lot of questions marks. Compete? Consistency? Defensive awareness? Not sold on Carlsson's upside. Michkov, well, a ton of question marks there. Still he outscored Will Smith as a 16 year old in the U18 . His upside is a lot closer to Connor Bedard than ppl will admit.

Now would I trade a 1% chance at getting Michkov in 3 years as opposed to 100% chance at a 60 point player in Carlsson..?...NO! Otherwise, this org will never win anything if they dont take BIG swings and there in lies the dilemma with the pick. Connor is already at 80-90 point levels. Risk/reward needs to be weighed, always
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May 11, 2023 at 10:48 a.m.
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Connor will probably need a 2nd also
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May 11, 2023 at 10:49 a.m.
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Fair. But 7th in 2023 > 7th in 2022...

FWIW... I am ok adding


100%, and 5 > 7. I just think there needs to be more here. You *know* what you're getting in Connor...point per game player in his prime, vs. the uncertainty that comes at 5.
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May 11, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.
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Quoting: GradyTheOtherXhekaj
Connor will probably need a 2nd also


If that's all than I see no blockers
May 11, 2023 at 1:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Smith has a lot of questions marks. Compete? Consistency? Defensive awareness? Not sold on Carlsson's upside. Michkov, well, a ton of question marks there. Still he outscored Will Smith as a 16 year old in the U18 . His upside is a lot closer to Connor Bedard than ppl will admit.

Now would I trade a 1% chance at getting Michkov in 3 years as opposed to 100% chance at a 60 point player in Carlsson..?...NO! Otherwise, this org will never win anything if they dont take BIG swings and there in lies the dilemma with the pick. Connor is already at 80-90 point levels. Risk/reward needs to be weighed, always


I think Connor can be a 90pts player for 5 years in MTL starting next year. I don't know why we feel the need to wait for players to develop. They can develop while we're winning
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