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Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 7:11 a.m.
Thread: Crazy Summer
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>You know, it's funny you think it's an overpay, because we don't think it's even close to going through. Offloading TK so you don't have to deal with his next contract that you're already not going to sign, and then the payment for the difference is a much lesser version of Zegras and a diminutive winger.

By the time TK is a UFA he'll be going into his age 29 season, we won't need his 8th year option for holding his rights, if we want to take a run at him, we have the money to do it as a UFA. The other pieces are of no interest to us.

So if you want Zegras, the main piece needs to be a young, top 6 RW with size. Signs point to Foerster as the basis for that trade, or we just keep Zegras, we're very happy to do so.</div></div>

Where do you get your intel? All indications point to TK resigning in Philly…very possibly an extension this summer.

Right now TK is the better player. Hen’s produced at a 0.95 point per game pace over his last 2 years. Zegras (throwing out last year which wasn’t good) was at .81 over his last 2 seasons. TK is also one of the best PK forwards in the league and wears an “A”.

Zegras missed 50 games last year and is now the 3rd best center in the organization, maybe 4th with the addition of Cutter.

And Zegras currently listed at 6’0” and 185lbs…..Frost is listed at 6’0” and 193….

There is a reason trade speculation has been surrounding Zegras’ name…and nobody is giving up the package you think he’s worth. That would be utterly insane and would eventually lead to Brierre’s firing if he made a deal like that.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 8 at 9:55 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 6 at 7:53 a.m.
Thread: We got a BLOCKBUSTER
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sk540</b></div><div>Not particularly close?

Well I think we can all agree that a 1 for 1 Chych for TK would be fair value. SO what you're saying is that a potential franchise goaltender, who is a rookie no less, our best defensive prospect who blew away the O this year, a solid two way top 6 forward who is only 24 and will put up 50 points this year in a John Tortorella system, plus a 1st and a 2nd, is not particularly close for Brady Tkachuk? I think if we added another 2nd or another blue chip prospect the unfairness would tip in the Flyers direction.

Brady Tkachuk is an absolute stud, a do it all Captain type, who is close to a point per game player. You don't trade guys like that. But if he pulls a Matty and wants out, thats close to a fair value package. I would add in a 2nd if that would make you happy, but it wouldn't be ours, it would be the ones we acquired.

But again, I can understand why you said not particularly close, because you just dont trade Brady Tkachuks, although that's what I thought about Matt too. And Gretzky. And Hull. And i could continue.</div></div>

I think your proposal would be a decent starting point. I’d argue that TK is worth more than Chychrun. Chych has been bad defensively this year. You’d be trading with the expectation that Torts and Shaw could fix him.

FYI, given the center position is a bigger need for us, I would rather target Stutzle than Tkachuk.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 28 at 10:41 a.m.
Thread: Big Move-option 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>athrin</b></div><div>OTT already has a player who cant stay heathy (chabot), they wont want another one in Drysdale OTT declines and that would not even get OTTs 1st this year yet alone add chych. hell i would not trade chych for that</div></div>

I have yet to find a trade that Ottawa fans would accept. Given how much this team has underperformed and desperately needs a shakeup, it’s surprising how anything of trade value is labeled as untouchable or is significantly overvalued. Chych isn’t actually that good on the defensive side of the ice. You are nuts if you think he is a worth a 21 year old former 6th pick, a first, and a Laughton (whom teams offered a 1st for in the offseason). That’s like saying he’s worth 3 firsts….the fact that you still wouldn’t take that for a guy with only 1 year left on his contract (and 50/50 to resign at best) is ludicrous.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 28 at 10:18 a.m.
Thread: Big Move-option 2
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Roperttos</b></div><div>They traded for Drysdale because they didn't have any good RD prospects and with this trade you are just bolstering our LD at the expense of our RD which makes no sense. Besides Drysdale, Bonk is the only other RD prospect who has higher than bottom pairing potential.</div></div>

I completely disagree with this take. Sanheim is much better on the right side and Bonk is by far the best D prospect in the organization. Keeping Drysdale likely means moving Sanheim to LD where he has been far less effective. And Andrae is a 5’’9” below average skating LD who despite having a high compete level, I think will struggle to play above the 3rd pairing level in the NHL. I also believe Attard can be a decent 3rd pairing guy and Zamula can play either side. Given all of that, I think the Flyers are in far better position for the future on the right side.

And they weren’t specically targeting RD when they traded for Drysdale….they tried to trade Cutter for Bo Byram prior to the Drysdale deal.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 26 at 4:20 p.m.
Thread: Minimal Moves
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ujeje</b></div><div>The question is, do we actually need the best C of this years UFA class? I'd say no. It's not like Flyers should be competitive next year but should be, when Michkov arrives and then try to take advantage of his ELC. And when that happens they struggle if they are using 15M+ on regressing Lindholm and Couturier.

But I could take Monahan cheaper with 2-3 year contract if they really want to add a center. Just play Frost as 1C then "Monahan"/Couturier/Cates as 2C and 3C or Cates at LW since we lack LW aswell. Poehling is good 4C. VGK and Bruins have shown that you can be a really good team without elite centers, if the rest of team is good enough and coaching is good aswell.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ujeje</b></div><div>The question is, do we actually need the best C of this years UFA class? I'd say no. It's not like Flyers should be competitive next year but should be,

when Michkov arrives and then try to take advantage of his ELC. And when that happens they struggle if they are using 15M+ on regressing Lindholm and Couturier.

But I could take Monahan cheaper with 2-3 year contract if they really want to add a center. Just play Frost as 1C then "Monahan"/Couturier/Cates as 2C and 3C or Cates at LW since we lack LW aswell. Poehling is good 4C. VGK and Bruins have shown that you can be a really good team without elite centers, if the rest of team is good enough and coaching is good aswell.</div></div>

They aren’t likely getting a center in free agency…at least not the long-term solution. They have acquired 4 firsts and 4 seconds in the next two drafts. Some of that is going to be used (maybe in conjunction with Laughton and/or Risto) as trade capital. Look for the Flyers to go after high-end prospect, a young center with good upside, or to trade up in this year’s draft to get a C or first pairing LD.