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Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 5:49 p.m.
Thread: Another Marner Deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingExLeafs</b></div><div>It depends on where Marner wants to go. Probably a couple of Western teams.</div></div>

What western teams?

LA doesn't need another top 6 winger
Anaheim isn't in a position to try and get a high impact forward and try competing soon
Edmonton doesn't need a guy like him
Calgary has Huberdeau they don't need a Marner
Vancouver also has high end forwards and not the cap space to add another
San Jose he won't waive for
Utah probably won't waive for
Dallas doesn't need a winger with his contract
Avs don't need him
Minny doesn't have the cap
Blues don't have a good franchise direction so they're out
Seattle maybe, but I guarantee they won't be offering anything like Shane Wright and who knows if Marner would waive for them either
Vegas can't fit him until Mark Stone goes on LTIR again
Doubt he waives for Winnipeg
Maybe Chicago, but again who would they give up and would they really trade for someone when they can just ball out in free agency
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 5:41 p.m.
Thread: Another Marner Deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>Marner's a regular season specialist, and he definitely doesn't feel like the kind of guy who'd buck the trend of having his production falling off, once he gets to NSH and has a fat new contract. Yes, he would make NSH a better team, but so would any of those UFAs I mentioned. Presumably they'd all sign for less than Marner, on their next contract (a guy who was making $4.5-6.5M is going to be a lot more enthusiastic about $8-10M, than a guy who was already making $11M).

Is Marner a bit younger and better than any of those guys? Sure (at least for the first 82 games in the season). Does that talent gap bridge the difference between whatever assets it would cost acquire him, plus the extra cap space he'd use up? I don't feel it does. And that's just comparing Marner to other wingers that could be available. When you compare him to where that acquisition cost and cap space could go instead (ie. C or RD), he's not a wise investment.</div></div>

Truth be told I hope Trotzy can work a miracle and get Stammer on an O'Reilly type deal, and maybe a Brandon Montour at less than 7 mil, then call it a good free agency and focus on drafting some high upside guys or trading into the top 12 with a couple of the 2nd rounders we have this year to catch whoever might fall this year, a la Zach Benson last year.
Forum: Armchair-GMThu. at 5:21 p.m.
Thread: Another Marner Deal
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>gmgb</b></div><div>

Even that, I'd be reluctant to do. If Trotz really is intent on adding a top line winger, why would he trade for Marner before exploring UFAs? Reinhart, Guentzel, Marchessault are all options that could be had for less money/term than a Marner extension. None of them would cost any assets. They all have more playoff experience too.

I think people are forgetting how Trotz's name came up as being in conversation about every player on the market, when he first became GM. I think he's listening and gathering as much info on everyone he can, without necessarily being interested in them. Poile was the same way (but famously air-tight, about not letting his name come up in rumours like this). There are too many reasons why Marner doesn't make sense for NSH, for me to think otherwise.</div></div>

Marner is top 7 in points in the last 5 years. Only behind guys like McDavid, Matthews, MacKinnon, Draisaitl, Pastranak, and Panarin.

I agree I'd rather explore a UFA, but Marner is exactly what Nashville has never been able to draft and develop. He fits what Trotz said we needed which is someone who gets people out of their seats. I'd love a Sam Reinhart, but I also think Marner is going to be available for a reasonable price. If that's the case it's worth exploring what the cost would be.

I also agree with the Trotz sentiment he's calling everyone and doing his due diligence on every player who might be available.
Forum: Armchair-GMWed. at 1:25 p.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMTue. at 11:19 a.m.
Thread: BUF Fans
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>littlejerryseinfeld</b></div><div>No, I do not believe he is available.

We are done trading for futures too</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Tjm220</b></div><div>Speaking completely honestly, I’m not sure you have anything that makes it worthwhile for Buffalo. They are trying to get back to the playoffs, not tear down and start over again.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Greysuits</b></div><div>Zero chance Cozens is made available. He is part of the teams core and on a team friendly deal.</div></div>

Completely understandable. My only thought is that he isn’t performing up to expectations with less than 50 points this past season with a little over $7m cap hit. Although, with a new (old) coach coming in they’ll probably wait to see if he turns it around. But if he has a similar season as this past year, do they start to consider their options?

As for immediate help, guys like Sissons, Novak, Lauzon, and Fabbro would be the most likely guys to be moved. I could see Sissons and Lauzon being really good options for this team— although it’s unfortunate Lauzon is LHD, and you have enough of those.

All in all, this is kinda the response I expected— but NSH needs to somehow find a top 6 center. Really tough market for that right now.