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Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 6:55 a.m.
Thread: Flames offseason trade and signings
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Leafsfan98</b></div><div>I bolded each part that you're wrong on:
<strong>Markstrom is a vezina caliber goalie and what do we get in return?</strong>

Markstrom just had a league average season coming off a terrible one... He's not a Vezina caliber goalie and isn't valuable to the Leafs (Woll's better, get over it)

<strong>Liljegren who can't be a consistent top 6 defenceman on the Leafs and is practically worth about a 3rd round pick</strong>,

(2 parts: one, Lilly's in your top 4 in this ACGM and IRL if Weegar moves over. 2, Lilly's don't go for only a 3rd round pick; he's cost controlled, RHD whom can move the puck effectively and is good both ways... If he doesn't play on the Leafs, you'll be saying the same thing)

<strong> Ryan Reaves who might be one of the worst contracts in the league,</strong>

If a contract that's either fully burial on almost buriable "one of the worst contracts in the league", then IDK what to say... Reaves also got the going rate for enforcers (MacDermid as an example)

Off the top of my head: Huberdeau, Gaudreau, Josh Anderson, PLD, Gallagher, Doughty, Anders Lee, Koktkienemi and more are far worse contract
<strong>No thanks Flames pass easily</strong>

Flames take this in a heartbeat... You get out of the Markstrom deal for Wolf at the cost of Andersson (whom you have no need for during the retool and only produced 40 points for what he's going to demand on trade) and you get to move up 5 spots (roughly worth Pick 61, https://soundofhockey.com/2022/06/06/examining-the-value-of-nhl-draft-picks/)

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You my friend are a token leafs moron lmao

Woll being better than Markstrom is the first sign of your insane bias, the dude can’t stay healthy and hasn’t established himself as a starter in the league yet he’s better than a guy who was a vezina finalist a few years ago lmfao

Markys stats have been skewed because of our awful 2nd half after selling off half our defence core obviously its a team game so his stats were affected but despite that before the deadline his goals saved above average was top 5 in the league and if you actually watched the team play you would see he was actually playing well but go ahead and stat watch trying to cherry pick numbers for your horrible arguments.

If Lily is in our top 4 that should tell you how horrible our defence core is he was nearly unplayable in the Boston series and hasn’t proven anything at the NHL level, there is no decent NHL team in the league that could comfortably put Lily in their top 4 and expect to win anything, and you can’t be cost controlled when he is literally an RFA looking for his next contract, what you mean is that he’ll be cheap so yet again another dumb argument.

Ryan Reaves provides nothing and if he’s the going rate for enforcers then no wonder that’s a dying position in the league, guys getting paid millions for being a knuckledragger costing your team goals because he is incapable of skating or doing anything with the puck (think of that JVR goal that was entirely his fault), so yeah let me just acquire a guy that provides nothing and gets paid millions simply because I can bury his contract lmao how stupid.

So many moronic things man its hard to talk about them all but saying we have no need for Andersson who’s likely our next captain and yet we somehow need Liljegren shows how much you know about the Flames.

The Flames would block the Leafs number if this garbage was offered to them but go ahead and keep highlighting how you don’t actually know anything.