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Forum: Armchair-GM19 hours ago

Thread: Toff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shanesaw9</b></div><div>I definitely wouldn't count MTL out is all I'm saying.</div></div>

The more I think about it, the more I see a fit. I think MTL could actually be front runner

Toffoli and his wife love MTL, no doubt. Plus, I think it fits MTL needs : top 6 could use more firepower and establishing a winning culture would help with him.

If I'm Toffoli, I'm asking for NMC and NTC. Not saying he'll get a full clause, but that bring the price down

And if MTL wants a bring a younger player by trading the WPG 1st pick, there certainly an other spot on the roster

Forum: Armchair-GM20 hours ago

Thread: Toff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I don't think he is that attached to Montreal to take a discount. LA sure but they don't have the cap space. I think he'll just sign in Chicago to play with Bedard and Hall</div></div>

I'm not so sure, he went on a cup run with MTL and this was the players tribune OP referenced (for context this was before the cup run even happened).

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts/tyler-toffoli-montreal-canadiens-hockey-nhl

Apparently his wife really loved Montreal and I know he is still close with Suzuki, Caufield, and Evans. MTL has the cap space to accommodate Toffoli and Monahan returns - the pair played together in junior too and might be convinced to come back to MTL together as well. I definitely wouldn't count MTL out is all I'm saying.

Forum: Armchair-GM20 hours ago

Thread: Toff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Shanesaw9</b></div><div>Killorn is a fair comparison if you're Toffoli's agent, but I also think Killorn took the best offer he could get on the market and went with it. If that's what Toffoli wants too he could probably get it, but if he chooses MTL (or LA) as other pointed out he might take a more reasonable deal.

I think $5.5M × 4 years could get it done for both sides potentially. Any more and MTL might want to reconsider the impact it could have on their window in future seasons.</div></div>

Let's see if he wants to play in MTL again. This GM traded him, players don't love that. If he truly wants to be in MTL as a first choice, it would mean a lot to the culture to have a vet like him on the team.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 hours ago

Thread: Toff

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Toffoli wants a long term deal, he is probably looking for the Palat deal</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>This amount of money/term proposal is not reasonable.

If he takes a shorter deal, the money has to be higher. If it's in the 5-6M range it has to be longer. Look at Alex Killorn last year. I can't imagine him signing a different deal than that one.</div></div>

Killorn is a fair comparison if you're Toffoli's agent, but I also think Killorn took the best offer he could get on the market and went with it. If that's what Toffoli wants too he could probably get it, but if he chooses MTL (or LA) as other pointed out he might take a more reasonable deal.

I think $5.5M × 4 years could get it done for both sides potentially. Any more and MTL might want to reconsider the impact it could have on their window in future seasons.

Forum: Armchair-GM21 hours ago

Thread: Toff

This amount of money/term proposal is not reasonable.

If he takes a shorter deal, the money has to be higher. If it's in the 5-6M range it has to be longer. Look at Alex Killorn last year. I can't imagine him signing a different deal than that one.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:11 a.m.

Thread: Toff

I think its rather the Habs or the Kings. Habs have the advantage to the Kings because of the Cap Space.
I think Tofolli doesn't want anything below 4 years, so there are good arguments for both teams.

Forum: Armchair-GMYesterday at 4:04 a.m.

Thread: Toff

Toffoli wants a long term deal, he is probably looking for the Palat deal

Forum: Armchair-GMFri. at 6:15 a.m.

Thread: vet sorta dump dmen

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jfstompers</b></div><div>Take Chairot please</div></div>

What pick or prospect would you like to give up for us to take Chiarot?

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 6 at 2:31 p.m.

Thread: The New Core

Sens aren't giving a first and high second for a year of Marner

Forum: Armchair-GMMay 6 at 2:28 p.m.

Thread: The New Core

sabres decline

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 28 at 5:32 p.m.

Thread: Marner is perfect for MTL

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Jackaille</b></div><div>c'mon, in MTL with the group he would do well, did well last year. This year is just a **** show synergy wise for the Leafs.

MArner is still a TOP 5 RW in the league and with him our top 6 is insane.
Ghule also helps Toronto a lot on their TOP 4 + Gallagher who will fight every night and a top 5 pick for a good ELC player, which they need.

I think its a win/win</div></div>
Lol, it’s not a fluke. He always has been bad in the playoffs. And it absolutely wouldn’t change in Montreal. I wouldn’t give Gallagher for him

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 26 at 11:10 p.m.

Thread: Bigger

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MontysPython</b></div><div>I don't agree with the trade down scenario. We need preferably the best top 6 guy we can get, not two imo. Still have a couple years left in the re-build</div></div>

I think Greentree will be the best forward after Demidov and Celebrini. Plus in the range of 7th to 12th there might be 4-5 defenseman’s taken. Mtl could land another pick and still got Greentree.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 23 at 2:15 p.m.

Thread: Next season

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MontysPython</b></div><div>I mean, I'm not a Z fan. I'm not a fan of trading the 1st and risking it for the guy.</div></div>

Totally reasonable. Frankly I wish all MTL fans shared that point of view and stopped regurgitating the same trade over and over on this platform

He’s polarizing outside of ANA because the media’s portrayal of his flashy highlights, the fact that he’s outgoing, and because he got a chel cover without the type of performance that warrants it. In ANA we love him for what he is, which is a creative and dynamic threat on offense who’s adored by his teammates and fans alike for how much he loves playing the game. No problem with the league hating him, I’d like to see him in a Ducks sweater for his career

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 22 at 7:09 a.m.

Thread: Realistic offseason

If Harris is a cap dump at 23 on a 1.4 mil deal then I guess you had better dump Coronato with a 1st cause he is a bigger cap dump

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 22 at 6:48 a.m.

Thread: Realistic offseason

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MontysPython</b></div><div>in what world is a $1.4M 23yo dman a cap dump?</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ht42</b></div><div>Harris a cap dump ??????? :tearsofjoy :tearsofjoy</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MontysPython</b></div><div>then why are yall taking him and putting him over Hanley, Bahl?🧍‍♂️</div></div>

He is trolling you

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 22 at 1:02 a.m.

Thread: Realistic offseason

Harris a cap dump ??????? :tearsofjoy :tearsofjoy

Forum: Mock-DraftApr. 20 at 5:00 p.m.

Thread: End Of Season Mock

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MontysPython</b></div><div>Montreal is probably looking for forwards😭</div></div>

They are high on iginla

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 18 at 7:21 a.m.

Thread: Slackin for Brandsegg-Nygard

Considering Guhle is a defenseman and only has 6 less points in 12 less games, it’s pretty clear who is better. And I’m not even talking defensively. Also, Devils management clearly doesn’t like him

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17 at 11:15 p.m.

Thread: Slackin for Brandsegg-Nygard

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ggha777</b></div><div>Id rather not do that</div></div>

Yeah no chance Montreal does that

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 17 at 10:57 p.m.

Thread: Slackin for Brandsegg-Nygard

Id rather not do that

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 12 at 11:23 p.m.

Thread: would it be interesting

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Db1899</b></div><div>Lee is one of the best high danger scoring chance creators in the league and is still a good two way forward. He’s roughly a 5 mill dollar player being paid 7 mill. Armia is a 1.5 mill-2 mill dollar player being paid 3.4 mill.</div></div>

So then your saying gallagher isnt underpaid then. Because everything you claimed about Lee is the same for gallagher.

And armia outside the PP has 2 more goals than lee so that is absolute garbage that lee is a 5 million and armia is 1.5-2 million. Hes scoring goals 5 on 5 at a higher rate than anyone on the islanders

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 12 at 7:14 p.m.

Thread: would it be interesting

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Black61</b></div><div>The habs dpnt add anything and the islanders add their 1st (or more if they make it to the conference fonals and the pick moves back)

Why would the habs add to a deal for a 7 million mid 30s guy whos below a .5 ppg.

Given contract the vast majority of teams would take armia</div></div>

Lee is one of the best high danger scoring chance creators in the league and is still a good two way forward. He’s roughly a 5 mill dollar player being paid 7 mill. Armia is a 1.5 mill-2 mill dollar player being paid 3.4 mill.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 12 at 4:03 p.m.

Thread: 24-25

I would like to see hutson 1 year in the AHL pairing with Reinbacher

I want to see Xhekaj and Mailloux on a third pair
Both are big guy and play well with the rocket this year

That top 6 look good but the bottom 6 make me cry
Kent hughes need to work on this in the summer

I think a team like the pens could be interest by a Dvorak at 2.25 m

If Anderson not lookin good at the next camp they should put him on waiver and send him to laval like they did with armia

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 12 at 7:13 a.m.

Thread: Cooley and the Gang

I think the Habs would rather trade Barron & Kovacevic plus picks to strengthen their forward group.

As much as Josh is no longer a fit on this team, the Habs have the cap space to keep him around, even in the stands or in Laval.

The only way I see a deal like this one happening is if the Habs go on a major shopping spree this year in UFA.

Forum: Armchair-GMApr. 11 at 7:49 a.m.

Thread: Accelerating the rebuild

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jonh514</b></div><div>He's worth Mesar++

What do you think Mesar is worth?</div></div>

I don't value Kakko that much. He has potential but a late 1st is probably the max I'd be willing to give up which is close to the value of Mesar. If it's Mesar Habs probably add another later pick, 3rd or something, if it's a pick by its self then it's Winnipeg's 1st.

Kakkos value is mostly determined by the risk a team is willing to take with him, maybe you get a rebuilder who pays more to take that chance but I don't see teams lining up to give up a 1st ++ for him

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