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Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2021 at 5:45 a.m.
Thread: Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DogDayCaps2</b></div><div>Legare Is 20 and still playing in the Q lol that’s not really what I would consider B+ He’s maybe a C level? Irony incredibly bias comment … Zucker was in a 38 point pace and he makes 5.5m. In a “ down year” Drouin was on pace for 42 points. Lol “ I’d suggest actually knowing the players before discussing them” Tara also had a down year but last year he had 10p in 10gp that’s an 82p pace.</div></div>

Legare was still playing in the Q because the pens had no room for him on their nhl roster and weren’t going to waste a year of his contract to play him in the ahl instead. Hardly a C prospect. Drouin had 2 goals in 44 GP. That’s 7 less than Zucker and Zucker played 6 less games. Zucker also had to deal with being stuck on a line with Malkin who came into the season out of shape. Drouin is also a cancer while Zucker is a locker room leader. Again I’d suggest actually knowing the players before discussing them. You hit the nail on the head. Tarasenko had a down year and only played 10 games the year before. He’s on his 3rd shoulder surgery. No team is going to pay a hefty price to take on damaged goods.
Forum: Armchair-GMJul. 8, 2021 at 4:17 a.m.
Thread: Tarasenko
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DogDayCaps2</b></div><div>You need to give up at least something of value to the blues for Tara…. The blues will just keep him for this. The guy scores 30g and 60+P when healthy. Does Zucker even have positive trade value at this point? Maybe you could get Drouin for him 1 for 1</div></div>

I’d suggest actually knowing the players before discussing them. You’re either incredibly bias or simply just don’t know about the players involved. This is an overpay by the pens. Tarasenko is on shoulder surgery #3, has a 7.5 million cap hit for 2 years, makes 9 million in real cash this year, requested to be traded, and has a full NTC which all hurt his value quite a bit. If this was the same Tarasenko that was putting up 30+ goal seasons, or even pacing that then I’d probably agree with you. However he ain’t. Zucker even on a down year would have had 20+ goals and 20+ assists in 82 games. So yes he still has value and Drouin blows. Zucker &gt; Drouin. Legare is a B+ prospect. Then adding a decent draft pick. Pens would say no thanks here. Unfortunately for blues fans. Tarasenko kinda tanked whatever trade value he had left by requesting a trade and being damaged goods.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 30, 2021 at 9:43 a.m.
Forum: Armchair-GMJun. 15, 2021 at 7:37 p.m.
Thread: Geno possibly out long term pulling the Tampa Trick
Nobody's denying Kucherov had surgery, what people are doubting is the time line. It's pretty big red flag when he comes back the same day the salary cap no longer exists. Another red flag is the fact that he was skating a month before he came back, not just light skating but full practices. Which is why there wasn't an ounce of rust on him since day one. Argue all you want that he's just that good you're kidding yourself anyone that hasn't played all year will have a bit of rust to his game. Which is why people are only saying that he was more than ready to come back before the play offs started and should have been activated.

The NHL said they investigated and found that everything was with in the rules, but all the NHL did was look at paper work they couldn't be bothered to send their own doctors in there to get a second opinion. If they had there wouldn't be any doubt about any of this.
Forum: Armchair-GMMar. 24, 2021 at 6:56 p.m.
Thread: Compher for Jarry
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>pharrow</b></div><div>Merzlikins is not a ufa and CBJ would never send him to PIT.
Kuemper is also not a ufa. They would have to trade to get him. So lets trade away pieces to get a goalie after they sent the starting goalie off for a bottom 6 winger. Come on man.
Raata is always hurt.

This is why COL doesn't just do these things.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Grusofsky96</b></div><div>What the hell is this? So basically DeSmith for Rantanen then in this case. Easily a no for the Penguins. Christ.</div></div>

I admit that I underestimated Jarry's value, because I overlooked that he's had a resuregence since his ugly start to the season.

Also, this AGM trade was more exploratory to assess value. I appreciate all the feedback, thanks.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4, 2020 at 12:28 p.m.
Thread: Now Toronto Might Really Need A Goalie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>He has 50 NHL games spread out over 2 seasons as a backup. His numbers are fine, but he has proven nothing except that he is a good back up. I never said he was an AHL player, i said he has not proven that he is an NHL starter, This is very simple if you read what I wrote instead of projecting.</div></div>

I feel you don't really understand the situation the Leafs are in. Their goaltending is mediocore at best. With Anderson injured for any length of time it is worse than atrocious. Desmith has proven to play well in stretches at the NHL level. He is also signed for 3 years at a very affordable contract that Leafs will need out of a back up because of the very top heavy payroll.
Blood is in the water as every team with a spare goaltending knows how much trouble the Leafs are in and if they miss the playoffs it will be chaos. They know how much they need a reliable back up to fill in and relieve Anderson so he isn't over worked. To be blunt Leafs are desperate. Desmith May be their best most affordable bet. TO be honest the Pens should try to milk the situatio for all it's worth. I guarantee the Ranger will with Georgiev. I think a 2nd round pick for desmith and a 2021 3rd is low honestly based on the situation.
But hey if you don't want to pay the price for a goalie keep rolling out Hutchinson and the leafs will enjoy an early golf holiday instead of playoff hockey.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4, 2020 at 9:34 a.m.
Thread: Now Toronto Might Really Need A Goalie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockeyfanatic05</b></div><div>Doesn't your fan base say kapanen is a top 6 player, but plays on the 3rd line because of their forward depth? Kind of like how DeSmith is only in the AHL because of pittsburghs goalie depth... Some leafs fans are so delusional</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>but he'd be better than what the leafs have and he'd be a decent stopgap till Freddy is back</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ttrexler99</b></div><div>what do you know about DeSmith?</div></div>

Just remember that the guy you are arguing with is a leafs fan. So no matter what your players suck and his are good. Matthews &gt; Crosby Tavares &gt; Malkin. Kerroot &gt; guentzel so logically desmith sucks bc he’s not on the leafs yet. Completely disregard his time in the nhl and forget that Pittsburgh has 2 current #1 goalies right now.
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4, 2020 at 9:17 a.m.
Thread: Now Toronto Might Really Need A Goalie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>hmmm, what's the difference between a guy who has proven he is a 2nd liner playing on the 3rd line and a guy who has proven he might be a pretty good backup playing in the AHL?
Like, are you serious with that comparison? I mean, if Kapanen had played 50ish games and scored 12 goals on the 2nd line and then been put in the AHL it might work, but it's not remotely similar.
and the Leafs, if their starter is hurt, they shouldnt be putting their eggs all in one basket with a guy who might be nothing more than an average backup. Like, would you be comfortable going into the playoffs with DeSmith if Jary and Murray were hurt? I doubt it.</div></div>

You cant be serious lol. DeSmith has a .917 save % and 2.66 gaa in his NHL career. The only reason he is in the AHL is because Murray and Jarry are better. Just because DeSmith is in the AHL, doesn't mean he is a AHL player, just like how Kapanen isn't a 3rd line player because he plays on the 3rd line in Toronto. Stop being this stupid
Forum: Armchair-GMFeb. 4, 2020 at 9:02 a.m.
Thread: Now Toronto Might Really Need A Goalie
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhockey91</b></div><div>I think your trade makes a lot of sense. Pens swap 2nd and 3rd with leafs, but leafs gain desmith. this is an optimal trade for both teams imo</div></div>

I think TML will hang on 2020 2nd with 1st gone, but if this is doable with 2021s i agree its not bad.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Yeah, i mean it's not like he's the Pens third string goalie who is currently playing in the AHL, exactly like I said, and would more likely than not be a poor substitute for an actual NHL starter!

Wow, so complicated!</div></div>

DeSmith showed he can handle big bois quite ok......sample is small, but he would come cheap as low risk......