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Forum: Armchair-GMMay 13 at 9:21 p.m.
Thread: Moving up
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JaredOfLondon</b></div><div>Yes he has been, and they are looking for a top pairing rhd, not a 2nd pairing one, or at least a 3rhd who can carry a 4th defender lhd like,oh i dunno ,mccabe.
Instead they keep bringing in bottom pairing rhd who are worse than liljegren and keefe kept playing them because he is a bad coach, you cant blame liljegren for keefes bad performance.
You can argue with that all you want, but your incredible bias doesnt make you right</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ryminister_92</b></div><div>Liljegren has never been a top 4 defender. If he was, the team wouldn’t be constantly looking for a top 4 right handed guy.
You can’t blame Keefe for Liljegren’s poor performance. Keefe gave him tons of chances to take the spot and run with it and he never has.
Liljegren couldn’t crack the top 4 on a defence core with the likes of Brodie, Benoit, Giordano, Edmundson, and Lybushkin. All those guys are #6 defenders at best, but mostly #7 guys all year and Liljegren couldn’t consistently stay ahead of them.

Timothy Liljegren is a #6/7 defender. Argue all you want with your usual incredibly bias opinion, but it still doesn’t make it right.</div></div>

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Liljegren is not really a top 4 defender. He's only ever there because we lack genuine top 4 RD. While I have advocated for Keefe's firing for years now, he's given Lily ample opportunity in bigger roles throughout the last two seasons. There's a reason he's never been able to crack the top line with Mo, he's not that good.

On a true contending team with a D core NOT comprised of bottom 6 defenders, he's a bottom 6 defender himself.

And as for the "looking for someone to carry McCabe" comment, it's actually McCabe who's carried Lily the majority of this season. Lily has always needed someone better than him to boost his metrics and make him look better than he is.

I'm 100% down to move Lily, but only if it's for a genuine upgrade.
Forum: Armchair-GMMay 5 at 12:35 a.m.
Thread: marner ideas