Edited Jun. 27 at 11:46 a.m.
Quoting: DJP1117
What are you talking about? What has he done to garner that contract? How about being a very solid 2 way defender, Who is right shot which always gets a premium, plays 21 minutes a night up aganst the teams best players. with the cap rising as much as its scheduled to rise the next few years and how much it rose this year. Guys are going to get paid higher numbers then were used to seeing for guys because it goes by percentage of the cap. Matt Roy will ABSOLUTELY get 6.25-7M All day long... Just look at it... Justin Holl got 3.4M, Hanafin is getting 7.4M. So I look at Roy and the cap is going up. Roy should be just below Hanafin. theres in no world hes not worth 6.25-6.75M with the cap the way it is now.
You have to add in that theres going to be a bidding war for these defencmen as well , Theres so many teams needing a top defender this year its insane. And this year theres cap room for all of them. These are all the teams who are going to be going after the top 5 defencemen.
Utah (will get 2, my guess is Montour and Zadorov
Their top 4 will be formidable.
Zadorov-Montour
Moser-Durzi
Vaimaki- ??? )
If i were early betting I woud bet on Utah to make the playoffs this season.
Detroit
Toronto
Dallas
New Jersey
Florida
Boston
Nashvlle
Theres several more but with all these teams looking for a top 4 defencman its going to ride the prices up.
I expect Toronto to sign 1 of the top guys then settle for someone like a Carrier.
Holl getting 3.4M was no surprise to me, I was saying that he would get 3M+ from someone. I know the cap is going up and that defenseman are also asking for a lot more but there are a few things you are ignoring 1) Roy's production is going to put him like 1M below Hanifin's (and Hronek - I know he was an RFA but he was arb eligible and a year away from FA) and probably limit him to a deal that takes him to 32-34, 2) he's not the best defenseman available and Severson's C.H.% would be ~6.6M at 88M, there's a lot of money to go around but GMs are going to look at what they can get for their money upfront as well (Guentzel is supposedly seeking 8.5Mx7) and on defense there could be Montour, Pesce, and Skjei available 3) he's also not the best RHD or best shutdown RHD available, if Pesce is seeking 7M and Montour maybe 7-9M if he hits the market, why would a team want to pay Roy 6.25-6.75/7M on a 6 to 6 to 7-year deal? I do think Roy could get around a 36M total contract (6.25Mx6 for example) but that would probably be the absolute max if a team is absolutely desperate. So, maybe a team does give him 6.75-7M/year but it would likely be for four years, and not 6 or 7. Personally, I don't think Roy is worth more than 5.5Mx5/6 =27.5M-32M but I understand that he'll have a chance at getting more, but that doesn't mean he'll get anywhere near a 50M contract. So, while Roy is probably going to be the 3rd or 4th most sought defender, if anyone is giving him more than 40M contract, it's going to be a very poor signing.
Quoting: GMBL
So, I take it that the OP had Roy signed at 4M (maybe less years too) originally?
It's now at 5Mx5, so that person's comment reads to me like he's saying Roy would get anywhere between a $39-49M contract on a 6 to 7 year deal which I don't see happening. Personally, the most I can see someone giving him is a about 36M contract unless LA signs him to a 7-year deal. I think the highest he gets is something in the low 6s. but if he gets 6.5M/year, I don't think he's getting more than 4 years. I think there's a good chance that only Pesce and maybe Skjei get total contracts that surpass 32M among UFA defenders on the open market. Forgot about Montour.
As for the teams, I think UTAH will get one top 4D (Montour) and a top 6F like they said they. Getting both Montour and Zadorov will be pricey, and isn't an absolute need just yet since Valimaki can play in the top 4. Detroit probably retains Ghostisbehere and try to add another via trade. Toronto really needs two, but they probably only get one top 4D unless they get another via a Marner trade. Dallas probably retains Tanev. CAR will need two guys if they lose Skjei and Pesce, so I think they'll look to at least sign one guy. NJ could use an upgrade on D but it's not necessarily that they go make a splash. Let's just say they end up getting Pesce, that probably would make Marino available for someone else though. Florida will need to replace Montour but they won't have a whole ton of cap to work with if they retain Reinhart, they could technically still keep the both, but my guess is that they re-up OEL and maybe go for someone like Carrier or Walker that would be cheaper. Boston probably acquires Chychrun via trade. Nashville can bring in two guys, I think they get Skjei and perhaps Pesce (if he doesn't end up in NSH). The top 4D ufa class has a lot of options really, not enough but if you compare it to last year, they have a whole ton. Next year could be the same thing and the quality improved as well.