Jets obviously decline pulock for ehlers is a way better trade that the jets could pursue

You aren't getting 7 years of Pulock for 1 year of Ehlers. That's not at all realistic

Ehlers would come with an extension obviously doesn't need to be a draft trade but a July 1st trade

UFA rights aren't worth a very early 3rd round pick (almost late 2nd)

this team isn't cap complaint.



that doesnt impact trade value much.

An extension is negotiated by the acquiring team after a trade is made, it has no direct effect on trade value.

Yeah Chicago can probably trade a 4th-5th depending on the year

Yeah and lou has done it in the past for horvat definitely not an issue as he'll get more playing time

Dont think any of those trades would happen, but I like your thought process. I really like ehlers and carrier. I also like the idea of a goalie upgrade. Only other change would probably be to trade/buyout KK or Kuzy to get a legit 2c like Stephenson or Monahan.

He traded a core player locked up long term for Horvat? Did I miss something in the trade conditions?

Canes don’t do these trades. Ullmark isn’t it for necas.

Ehlers will get an 8 x 8.5+ extension, we aren’t doing that without playing first. No chance we give that much for a guy we are renting

0 reason to dump Freddie

He traded for a player he wanted and extended him not impossible to trade for ehlers for pulock to change up the team. Rather trade ehlers to a team that will give him the first line time he deserves which you don't have here.

Much as I would like that to happen.

1- it would not be 1 for 1

2 - Canes have a pair of more than capable goalies with a combined cap hit of 5.4. PK is set to take over the #1 at some point, if not this year, next.

3 - Canes have way too many other holes to fill and cap constraints that moving Necas for an uneeded goalie makes little sense, they need to get a replacement for him in the trade if anything.

not sure if u canes fans are suddenly viewing ullmark as a savoir or if necas is worthless to u guys? had canes fans tell me like 3 weeks ago lysell + 2nd/1st + ullmark for necas isnt good enough.
tera is gonna get more then that for sure. someone is going to offer him 5m(probably the bruins if Jake DB leaves if they get necas). Freddy should get u guys at least a late second. so many teams looking for a 1B goalie that he should have plenty of people calling for him.

He did trade for a player he wanted, that's not uncommon. What is very uncommon is trading a core player with term for a rental

Canes aren’t going to spend their best trade asset on a goalie. This year is all about seeing if Kochetkov is the guy.

Winnipeg doesn’t take that for Ehlers, two AHLers and some late in the round picks aren’t what they need. The canes also wouldn’t extend him

Andersen has positive value, no reason to give up a pick to dump him even if we upgrade in his spot

Not a rental he can extend him 7x7 minutes after the trade and boom problem solved. Wow that was easy.

He can extend him for 8 years at any cap hit after the trade is made, that does not change the fact that he is acquiring a player with 1 year of term left. How is this confusing to you?

Maybe I'll try a different way of explaining this. If I am getting new tires for my car but I am capable of installing them myself I am not going to pay the seller the installation fee if I am the one putting them on my car

canes reject first two, other teams reject other two.

Ullmark not worth Necas and no need to sign him to long term extension. Koochie gets his shot this year.

Freddy isn’t a cap dump and see point 1 above. If they were trying to move him flames don’t make sense

Why are hawks trading for Guentzel rights and not trying to get an 8 year deal done? They’re not sending a third for that, they can just try to sign him on 7/1.

Not enough quality for jets to accept. Also ehlers doesn’t make a ton of sense for canes. If they’re not willing to extend Guentzel they won’t be willing to extend Ehlers long term which is what he’ll look for next summer.

Yep. Center depth looks pretty weak. I would definitely try and at least see what the buyout would cost on kk

- Canes need a goalie. End of discussion. Ullmark & Kuchi could potentially be a nice tandem for years to come.
- Freddy hasn't worked out, it's time to move on. Flames should at least call on him as he would serve as a nice role model for the rookie wolf in net for at least 1 year.
- Canes have reportedly shopped Jake's rights for a mid-round pick so I based it off that.
- Ehlers trade is a long shot, won't happen but thought I'd have some fun.
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There's no incentive for Winnipeg to trade Ehlers for a late first and a bunch of nothing.

bro if you love the jets so much why don't you marry them

Trading Necas for Ullmark is awful. Just awful. Won’t be happening. Kooch is the guy this year. Need to know if he can handle it.

I’d suggest you worry about pens goaltending.

Toronto would probably be a good landing spot for Andersen. That said, at that price the Flames can always take him and either flip him or Vladar.