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Marners real trade value

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Team: 2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jun. 22, 2024
Published: Jun. 22, 2024
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3$2,000,000
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4$4,500,000
3$3,000,000
2$2,000,000
2$1,250,000
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  1. 2024 2nd round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
  2. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
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  1. 2025 2nd round pick (DET)
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  1. Robertson, Nicholas
  2. 2024 5th round pick (VAN)
3.
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  1. Roy, Nicolas
  2. Theodore, Shea
  3. Whitecloud, Zach
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Theodore signs extension with leafs. 4 years X 8 million
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  1. Marner, Mitchell
  2. 2024 5th round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
Marner signs extension with Vegas. 5 years X 11 Million
4.
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  1. 2025 4th round pick (CAR)
CAR
  1. Kämpf, David
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (MIN)
  3. 2025 5th round pick (TOR)
5.
TOR
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (WPG)
NJD
  1. Järnkrok, Calle
  2. 2024 5th round pick (NSH)
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
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G
UFA - 2
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Jun. 22 at 1:04 p.m.
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No from Detroit
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Jun. 22 at 1:05 p.m.
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Not a chance from Minnesota.

Why would they give up #13 overall for a RHD???

They are stacked at RHD. Next kid is coming up this season.
Jun. 22 at 1:20 p.m.
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Vegas isn't trading two D for him, sorry. This is not his real trade value.
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Jun. 22 at 1:22 p.m.
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Not a chance from Minnesota.

Why would they give up #13 overall for a RHD???

They are stacked at RHD. Next kid is coming up this season.


That's a 2nd, Not a First
Jun. 22 at 1:49 p.m.
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Red wings pass so fast, what a terrible trade for an ahl player
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Jun. 22 at 1:55 p.m.
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That's a 2nd, Not a First


It's still a top 50 pick. And the Wild don't have a 3rd.

Wild have a kid from SCSU that is a lot like Faber. He should see plenty of minutes this year. He's actually a LHD. Jack Peart
Jun. 22 at 4:05 p.m.
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No from Detroit




Delusional
Jun. 22 at 4:09 p.m.
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Not a chance from Minnesota.

Why would they give up #13 overall for a RHD???

They are stacked at RHD. Next kid is coming up this season.




Minny has a lot of LHD but not many RHD. Liljegren is a solid d man for a 3rd pairing who is probably only going to make 2 million. Go look at his J fresh. Minnesota needs players that are ready to play for them now. They may have some prospects but they won’t be ready for another 2 years. This trade makes total sense and you’re getting back a 4th as well. A lot of people don’t understand the value of players now a days
Jun. 22 at 4:11 p.m.
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Vegas isn't trading two D for him, sorry. This is not his real trade value.


This is most definitely his trade value and it may even be a little hit less than what Marner is worth. Vegas just signed Hanafin who’s on the 3rd pairing, he is far too good to be playing there. Theodore also only has 1 year left on his contract just like Marner and will want a raise. Whitecloud is a 3rd paring guy who wasn’t even drafted so he’s most definitely replaceable and Roy is a solid 3rd line guy. There was talks that it was going to be Theodore and Karlson and a pick just for Marner alone. You people really undervalue 100 point players.
Jun. 22 at 4:13 p.m.
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Red wings pass so fast, what a terrible trade for an ahl player



This is a terrible take. You haven’t followed Robertson enough to speak about him obviously. He has one of the best shots I’ve seen and he’s quick. He’s a goal scorer. You guys are losing quite a few forwards this year. Detroit is not a very good hockey team either, he’d make there team alot better
Jun. 22 at 4:16 p.m.
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Minny has a lot of LHD but not many RHD. Liljegren is a solid d man for a 3rd pairing who is probably only going to make 2 million. Go look at his J fresh. Minnesota needs players that are ready to play for them now. They may have some prospects but they won’t be ready for another 2 years. This trade makes total sense and you’re getting back a 4th as well. A lot of people don’t understand the value of players now a days


They just signed Peart to a 3 year deal. He's on the same path as Faber. He will be one of their top 7 D Man this year. Plus the kid they picked up from the Jets on Waivers is an RFA. And they like him Chyrcin. He's a RHD.

You're not getting a second round pick when they don't have a 3rd rounder. Pipe dream.
Jun. 22 at 4:16 p.m.
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This is a terrible take. You haven’t followed Robertson enough to speak about him obviously. He has one of the best shots I’ve seen and he’s quick. He’s a goal scorer. You guys are losing quite a few forwards this year. Detroit is not a very good hockey team either, he’d make there team alot better


Wah wah wah, cry me a river, you can keep that scrub. He's barely worth a 7th round pick, can care less about his intangibles, can't hack it in the nhl, seen it 100,000 over the last 40 years of players. Keep him if you think he's worth a 2nd or has anymore value they a 7th in 2038. Your take is way way worse thinking you can get a 2nd
Jun. 22 at 4:21 p.m.
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They just signed Peart to a 3 year deal. He's on the same path as Faber. He will be one of their top 7 D Man this year. Plus the kid they picked up from the Jets on Waivers is an RFA. And they like him Chyrcin. He's a RHD.

You're not getting a second round pick when they don't have a 3rd rounder. Pipe dream.


Man you’re lost , kid. You have no idea the true value of a RHD in the NHL. Especially one that’s young, got drafted in the first round and put up decent defensive numbers for cheap. None of those kids you’re talking about will be ready to play. Minnesota is garbage they could use a guy that plays good defence
Jun. 22 at 4:24 p.m.
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Wah wah wah, cry me a river, you can keep that scrub. He's barely worth a 7th round pick, can care less about his intangibles, can't hack it in the nhl, seen it 100,000 over the last 40 years of players. Keep him if you think he's worth a 2nd or has anymore value they a 7th in 2038. Your take is way way worse thinking you can get a 2nd



😂😂 you’re comical kid. He had 27 points in 56 games played on the leafs 3rd line last season. You must be making the red wings lines for them, that’s why they suck so bad😂
Jun. 22 at 4:50 p.m.
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😂😂 you’re comical kid. He had 27 points in 56 games played on the leafs 3rd line last season. You must be making the red wings lines for them, that’s why they suck so bad😂


Keep him since he's so awesome, we want no part of this

I forgot you're a typical leaf fan, overvalue everything you have and undervalue everything else in the nhl
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Jun. 22 at 5:22 p.m.
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Delusional


How so? Detroit had Zadina which didn’t amount to anything, and now they have Berggren who is essentially Robertson with better playmaking but a worse shot.

The fit is also not there, as Detroit has several undersized forwards, and is in need for guys that bring a different element.

It’s not delusional to believe that a 5’9 one trick pony who has no sustained track record isn’t worth a 2nd
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Jun. 22 at 5:48 p.m.
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Delusional


Not even a little bit. He's a depth forward. Detroit had 11 forwards with at least 12 goals and 28 points last season. So how not wanting to give up a 2nd for a bottom 6 player delusional?????
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Jun. 23 at 12:49 p.m.
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Not even a little bit. He's a depth forward. Detroit had 11 forwards with at least 12 goals and 28 points last season. So how not wanting to give up a 2nd for a bottom 6 player delusional?????




Robertson is not a bottom 6 player. He was playing bottom 6 minutes and put up good numbers. He’s about a 20-25 goal guy and a 45-50 point guy. Less than 25 percent of second round picks play in the nhl. Robertson was a previous 2nd round pick.
Jun. 23 at 12:53 p.m.
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How so? Detroit had Zadina which didn’t amount to anything, and now they have Berggren who is essentially Robertson with better playmaking but a worse shot.

The fit is also not there, as Detroit has several undersized forwards, and is in need for guys that bring a different element.

It’s not delusional to believe that a 5’9 one trick pony who has no sustained track record isn’t worth a 2nd



That’s obviously was Steve Y likes. There’s definitely a fit. You’re losing Kane and Perron. Having a winger that can put up 20-25 goals a season is huge. Especially if he plays on the 3rd line. You guys really undervalue players a lot on here. There’s a lot of example of players that aren’t tall that are very effective at what they do
Jun. 23 at 12:56 p.m.
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Keep him since he's so awesome, we want no part of this

I forgot you're a typical leaf fan, overvalue everything you have and undervalue everything else in the nhl



A lot of you people on here like to undervalue players. Less than 25 percent of players drafted in the 2nd round play in the nhl. How do you know if that second round pick will even amount to anything?
Jun. 23 at 1:07 p.m.
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Canes have 0 interest in Kampf, wrong team. Already have 3 bottom 6 centers
Jun. 23 at 1:47 p.m.
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A lot of you people on here like to undervalue players. Less than 25 percent of players drafted in the 2nd round play in the nhl. How do you know if that second round pick will even amount to anything?


Robertson isn't getting you a 2nd round pick and that's it
Jun. 23 at 2:42 p.m.
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That’s obviously was Steve Y likes. There’s definitely a fit. You’re losing Kane and Perron. Having a winger that can put up 20-25 goals a season is huge. Especially if he plays on the 3rd line. You guys really undervalue players a lot on here. There’s a lot of example of players that aren’t tall that are very effective at what they do


1) there is no guarantee he puts up 20-25 goals.

2) how is he someone SY likes? His track record shows otherwise.

3) not undervaluing, and didn’t say anything in regards to NRob other than he isn’t a fit in Detroit as an undersized goal scorer.

4) there are UFAs that can give the same production, if not more and won’t cost any assets being sent out.

5) yes there are undersized players that do well, Detroit currently has Debrincat/Raymond that fill that role and do it better than Robertson.

Spin it how you want, there isn’t a fit. And if he truly is as good as Leaf fans claim, he would be a perfect candidate to be a secondary scoring bottom 6 winger on a low cost contract.
Jun. 24 at 8:46 p.m.
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Robertson is not a bottom 6 player. He was playing bottom 6 minutes and put up good numbers. He’s about a 20-25 goal guy and a 45-50 point guy. Less than 25 percent of second round picks play in the nhl. Robertson was a previous 2nd round pick.


Well he's certainly not top 6.
Jun. 24 at 8:47 p.m.
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Detroit ain’t giving you a 2nd for Robertson when they won’t even clear room for Berggren lol.
 
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