Isles accept

As much as I don't necessarily want Marner cause it'll be extremely hard to actually build a team around him with his cap, at some point you just have to accept the trade based on value alone and figure it out later. This is probably pretty unrealistic cause I don't see him being moved at all, but I would think he would probably get more from some other team who would be more willing to pay him.

awful value for the Leafs IMO - Pelech is best used as your 2nd/3rd best Dman if you're a contender (so like...good, but not a star); Maggio is a project/upside guy at this point; and Wahlstrom is likely a non-tender. If this is all the Leafs would want, from the Isles I'd take the deal and shop Marner elsewhere to get what he's actually worth from someone else.

I do feel like I undervalued Marner a little bit but at this point I feel like he's going to walk as a UFA next summer and getting Pelech on term was important. Isles don't really have many more premium assets to give other than picks and I didn't really want to add too many high picks because that wouldn't be very realistic

Eh, I don't mind the Kaliyev for Robertson swap, but I'd much rather trade Kaliyev 1-for-1 for Wahlstrom.

Pelech is overpaid now and another six years for this 30 year old......no thanks

I don't think he is overpaid at the moment but maybe down the line on that contract but the window to win is now anyways, I do think I sold a bit short on Mitch tho

I think they are equal value so it makes sense, similar players tho so they may meet the same problems on their new teams, more of a fan of Kaliyev on TOR for a scoring punch in the Bottom-6, but I see how NRob could get stuck with low TOI in LA

The best return for one year of Marner is no return. Just having 11m to spend elsewhere like a 5.5m UFA Dman and 5.5, RWer would be fine
Mitch isn't waiving without a contract in hand. No logical team think he worth his 11m (fifth highest in the league) and he'll want a raise too.

The Kings have a severe shortage of both right-handed forwards and wingers with size, which is why I would prefer Wahlstrom. If that doesn't work out, Robertson would be a suitable consolation prize. I'm not that high on him, but I'm not really that high on Kaliyev either, so I suppose it's fair.

Just a note, a good friend of mine coached Pelech and other NHLers in minor hockey. He said Pelech was the best teammate and coachable kid he ever had on in his 30 years of coaching.

I absolutely see your point, but in a way Pelech is that 5.5M defenseman and the 5.5 went to Bert and Kaliyev/Wahlstrom

Would add to the locker room chemistry and feels like he would be a good fit in a Craig Berube system

Still five years of 5.75m for an overpaid player is too much. Heck sign Todd Gill for locker room chemistry for 1m even though isn't a NHLer
I was thinking more along the lines of Walker for four years, and Toffelli for three years.

Yeah I like Walker and Toffoli, I personally would love Stammer to come home for a bit less than he would elsewhere given we shed some cap.

Sharks don't want that meatball lmfao

from your lips to god's ears

I'd rather have Carlton the bear then Reaves