Kakko has been my favorite player since he was drafted. Absolutely love him. However, idk how much more value he has.

Not particularly. If you want to contend, you need more from your 1C and your top line in general. What annoys rangers fans the most is the never ending carousel on the first line that never seems to work. Only Buch ever fit like a glove on that line ( as did Vatrano, briefly ). Trocheck and his contract soften the blow for now but if you’re the rangers it has to be frustrating when your star players tend to disappear. Even at his peak, he was always a streaky player. On a team that needs consistency he seems to hurt us sometimes, although he is still a good player.

I think with Trouba, what Id do is try to strike a deal with Detroit since thats home, theyre a fringe playoff team and he would likely waive his NTC for it. Trouba (1.5m retained) for a 3rd round pick and Petry. We could then choose to hold onto Petry as a 3RD, waive him or flat out buy him out clearing another 1m off the books.

If the Sens move Brady they’re not gonna wanna help now. They’re gonna want 19-22 year old pieces that can help them in 2-3 years and beyond

I do too but not that stupid lol

I get that but I think Panarin could definitely help them in 2-3 years and beyond with an extension. He just had a career year. I don’t think he just falls off a cliff.

I definitely would not be opposed

He’s 32.

Sens are gonna want pieces like Nemec , Boldy, Mercer , Jarvis, Laf etc . Not guys a decade older

It's playoffs, games get tight. Look at how many goals Matthews and Pastrnak had in the playoffs, or even Tkachuk who . Canes almost got swept but they are a strong defensive team and a lot of those games were decided by one goal just like the ECFs. Against FLR, he's going up against the Selke Trophy winner. Quite a few Selke Trophy winners who won the cup or were finalists, and others who won the cup/were finalists the year before or after). Shesterkin was better but Bobrovsky still played great and even shut the door in game 1. FLR and even CAR dominated the game play in many of those games. It's not much of a surprise that Zibanejad had one goal in 10-games (only 4 were wins).

I know. That’s why I’m thinking Chytil and Othmann would be good. Still a fun thought to entertain. I’m honestly a big fan of what tkachuk could bring id be willing to give up a lot. And im sure he’ll bring in a lot if moved.

Every team would want Tkachuk . He’s a rare breed

Zero goals in 10 games.

How do you explain completely abandoning a physical game? Literally avoiding contact at all costs. How do you explain numerous horrible turnovers? The only time Zib was noticeable was on replays of Florida coming on an odd man rush the other way. How about the turnover he caused which cost the Rangers the game?

This is why I said, Im not as critical of Panarin because Florida was absolutely hawking the guy but he still was able to not only made an adjust be to be more physical in his game, but would do things that dont show up on the score sheet to allow Trocheck and LAF to make plays.

100%. Hard to find a player that could impact the game as much as he could. I’d LOVE to see him with any playoff team ( unless they are playing the rangers) haha.

I dont know what your obsession is with Chytil, his value is at an all time low right now. Ottawa would want Schneider, Perreault, Othmann, Sykora, Berard... 1sts, lots of 1sts

Great point made here. He shied away and decision making was definitely questionable, as Game 4 showed.

I don’t think ottawa would want a quantity package like this. If he wants out they’ll look for a team wanting to swap a young Laf or Nemec type piece for Tkachuk that ottawa can build around

It's fair to say you need a better 1C, and I won't say that Zibanejad isn't streaky but that's what you get for 8-8.5M really. Maybe this team needs a shakeup and that's why moving him would make sense but the assumption would be that they are taking a step back and not really trying to be a true contender. I get losing sucks, and it's frustrating when your stars can't put you over the top, but at the same time need to have realistic expectations for guys and probably should acknowledge that without their stars, the Rangers, or any other contender are not making the playoffs or are losing in the first round. Just remember it could always be worse, it's not like Zibanejad or Panarin this year were as bad as Panarin was last year in the playoffs. Whenever McDavid and Draisaitl get shutdown and lose, and one or both would face criticism despite putting up ridiculous numbers in the playoffs despite carrying that team for so long. They only have a decent roster aside from them now after adding Hyman, Kane, Ekholm and the emergence of Bouchard and to a lesser degree Skinner.

I know his value would be lower now but I’d move him for three reasons. 1 he’s young and Ottawa is looking for that. 2 he has term. 3 he’s being paid 4.4 million as a 3C where our 4C is getting 3.6. We saw this year our team is very capable without him so if he could be used in the deal I wouldn’t be opposed at all.

To be fair, it couldn’t be much worse than panarin last year in the playoffs haha. I know what you are saying and I agree with your points but it just gets tiring when it’s the theme. Right now, I think most ranger fans like me are just coping by saying panarin or Mika should go and are making all these flashy couch GM moves right now. In reality, we all know the core will stay in tact. I made a more realistic version of what I think will happen in a prior lineup I posted today. I think the rangers can do it with this core, however Trouba needs to go. That’s it. Buyout trouba ( 4 million cap hit) or in a miracle trade him and retain two million. They’ll keep the D as it is ( give jones a full time spot finally ) and maybe sign Marchessault which I don’t necessarily agree with. Run it back. They got beat by an almost perfectly constructed playoff team who deserved it more.

Yea but as csick says, Ottawa doesnt need a guy like Chytil. Id trade Chytil for Pinto if that was an option, but theres no way that he nor Kakko even start the needle that gets Tkachuk.

They dont need to buy out Trouba, they can easily trade him with retention I think. His NTC is where it will get tricky.

This may be true. And I do agree kakko would not move the needle at all. Othmann and picks for sure. Sykora and Berard as well. I’d absolutely hate giving Perreault away but at the end of the day if that is what it takes…

The more I look into the Detroit situation the more I think it could happen.

What I always say is these are trades where youre offering spokes on a wheel. A bunch of depth and maybes, not a single bona fide top 6 starter.

Hence, Panarin