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Team: 2024-25 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: May 31, 2024
Published: May 31, 2024
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$5,000,000
8$7,750,000
4$2,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$6,500,000
6$6,500,000
2$2,750,000
2$4,500,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Schneider, Braden$5,000,000
2025 1st round pick
2025 3rd round pick
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. 2024 7th round pick (MTL)
  2. 2025 3rd round pick (VAN)
MTL
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (VAN)
  2. 2024 6th round pick (SJS)
2.
3.
VAN
  1. Kotkaniemi, Jesperi
  2. Necas, Martin [RFA Rights]
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
4.
VAN
  1. Lambos, Carson
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (MIN)
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2024
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2025
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2026
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$87,700,000$87,504,047$0$555,000$195,953
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C, LW, RW
NMC
UFA - 6
$7,750,000$7,750,000
RW
RFA
Logo of the Ottawa Senators
$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$6,500,000$6,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 7
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$475,000$475K)
RW, C
RFA - 3
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,820,000$4,820,000
C
UFA - 6
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,600,000$1,600,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$825,000$825,000
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$775,000$775,000
LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 3
$5,000,000$5,000,000
RD
RFA
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$2,250,000$2,250,000
G
RFA
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$838,333$838,333 (Performance Bonus$80,000$80K)
LD
RFA - 3
$6,500,000$6,500,000
RD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$775,000$775,000
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 1

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May 31 at 6:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
And Miky hasn't been good since the ACL injury... Necas literally played C in the playoffs (and at a roughly 70 point pace over 82 games btw), and Hronek is a 40-45 point RD. Necas is more valuable than Hronek, KK is more valuable than Miky


He actually played very good while playing with the torn ACL (23 goal, 50 point pace although Pettersson was a big reason for that). He was also solid the first ~20-25 games this season then fell off a cliff because he couldn’t score to save his life. He had 1 goal in his last 65-70 games, and should get some better shooting luck next season. But despite his offensive struggles he was still very good defensively
May 31 at 6:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
What? How is it wrong? Miky's coming off an ACL and is 29 where KK played the entire season just was brutally unlucky, is 23, and is a center. Necas is a 60+ point C where Hronek is a 40-ish point D man. Both suck defensively. The more valuable player in both scenarios is Carolina's


You managed to be wrong another 5 times in 4 more sentences. Incredible numbers, my man.
May 31 at 6:20 p.m.
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Quoting: qwertymann
You managed to be wrong another 5 times in 4 more sentences. Incredible numbers, my man.


You want to try and back up your point here or you just going to say "you're wrong"
May 31 at 6:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
You want to try and back up your point here or you just going to say "you're wrong"


I dont need to, the rest of the replies are doing it for me. 25 y/o all offense winger who averages 55 points a season across his whole career is NOT more valuable than a 40+ point RHD. Hronek CAN defend, if he couldn't, he wouldnt be playing with Quinn. KK's contract is infinity years long and 3m too much. That requires at minimum a 1st and retention just to cancel it out. You're just making insane comments and then using "facts" to prove one of your points but it completely obliterates another one of your points. Its embarrassing and impressive.
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May 31 at 6:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Necas literally is a center

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70 point pace center this postseason, proved is sustainable. A 60-70 point CENTER >>>>>> Hronek


He's literally a winger. Jack Drury is the center on that line lol

He took 7 faceoffs this postseason, that was 10th most on your roster. A roster has 4 centers. He was listed as the RW in everyone one of the Hurricanes lineup cards. You aren't fooling anyone except maybe yourself.
May 31 at 6:40 p.m.
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Quoting: mv21227


Also you’re arguing KK is a Center but using that shows he’s a winger lmao


That site does not list the line in positional order, it just lists the players

For comparison sake, you can look at Joel Eriksson Ek's page here:
https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/joel-eriksson-ek

Where he's only in the middle in like 3/9 top line combinations, but I assure you he has never played anything but center in his life

This is why I question if that poster is actually a Hurricanes fan, or even watches any of their games.
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May 31 at 6:40 p.m.
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Quoting: qwertymann
I dont need to, the rest of the replies are doing it for me. 25 y/o all offense winger who averages 55 points a season across his whole career is NOT more valuable than a 40+ point RHD. Hronek CAN defend, if he couldn't, he wouldnt be playing with Quinn. KK's contract is infinity years long and 3m too much. That requires at minimum a 1st and retention just to cancel it out. You're just making insane comments and then using "facts" to prove one of your points but it completely obliterates another one of your points. Its embarrassing and impressive.


What? Brother LMFAO. Are all you Canuck fans this way? Quinn is the REASON Hronek hit 40 points FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS CAREER (!) this season. Necas is a year removed from a 70 point season, and plays center. Played center in the playoffs. Hronek can't defend! Let me destroy that with this

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KK's coming off a down year so the deal looks bad now, but he also put up 40 points last year. He's only 23, and while it's overpaid by maybe a mill, he's going to rebound back to the 40 point mark, and the great defensive numbers he has had literally every other year of his career, including his time in Montreal. You've just proven my entire point for me. Thanks for being wrong
May 31 at 6:41 p.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
He's literally a winger. Jack Drury is the center on that line lol

He took 7 faceoffs this postseason, that was 10th most on your roster. A roster has 4 centers. He was listed as the RW in everyone one of the Hurricanes lineup cards. You aren't fooling anyone except maybe yourself.


Drury was the winger! Necas didn't take draws on the left, since it's Drury's powerside, and he played center! You aren't going to sit here and try to tell ME who actually watched the games, has the stats and graphics, that I'm wrong when you're CLEARLY making it up as you go are you?
May 31 at 6:43 p.m.
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Quoting: Caerii
That site does not list the line in positional order, it just lists the players

For comparison sake, you can look at Joel Eriksson Ek's page here:
https://frozenpool.dobbersports.com/players/joel-eriksson-ek

Where he's only in the middle in like 3/9 top line combinations, but I assure you he has never played anything but center in his life

This is why I question if that poster is actually a Hurricanes fan, or even watches any of their games.


JEEK has a tendency to get drawn into the boards, and it lists them by most time spent in what area. If JEEK spends most of the game on the wing, he'll be listed as a winger. It's almost like taking draws isn't what makes you a center in the NHL...
May 31 at 6:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Drury was the winger! Necas didn't take draws on the left, since it's Drury's powerside, and he played center! You aren't going to sit here and try to tell ME who actually watched the games, has the stats and graphics, that I'm wrong when you're CLEARLY making it up as you go are you?


Your act is so tired lol

Drury took 87 faceoffs in the 11 games, he was third on the team. Necas took 7, less than 1 per game. Not even enough to say Necas was taking the faceoffs on Drury's weak side. Drury was taking every faceoff. And when Necas wasn't with Drury he was with Kotkaniemi, who played center on that line.

I can also bring out the lineup cards that the Hurricanes post that show Necas was the RW every single game of the postseason with Drury and Kotkaniemi as his centers, if you want.

What we're not going to do is sit here and pretend Necas is a center.
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May 31 at 6:47 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
What? Brother LMFAO. Are all you Canuck fans this way? Quinn is the REASON Hronek hit 40 points FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS CAREER (!) this season. Necas is a year removed from a 70 point season, and plays center. Played center in the playoffs. Hronek can't defend! Let me destroy that with this

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KK's coming off a down year so the deal looks bad now, but he also put up 40 points last year. He's only 23, and while it's overpaid by maybe a mill, he's going to rebound back to the 40 point mark, and the great defensive numbers he has had literally every other year of his career, including his time in Montreal. You've just proven my entire point for me. Thanks for being wrong


You're just cherry picking stats, my dude. The way you're talking I presume also watched all 95 Canucks games this year? If KK is so amazing, keep him. I have zero idea why anyone has interest in him unless they are being paid to take him and there is retention. He simply is not a ~5m player. Necas' camp wants out of CAR... that doesnt help his value.
May 31 at 6:53 p.m.
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Quoting: qwertymann
You're just cherry picking stats, my dude. The way you're talking I presume also watched all 95 Canucks games this year? If KK is so amazing, keep him. I have zero idea why anyone has interest in him unless they are being paid to take him and there is retention. He simply is not a ~5m player. Necas' camp wants out of CAR... that doesnt help his value.


Necas doesn't want out of Carolina, he wants topline minutes. There's a reason he's been very open about coming back.

I'm more than happy keeping KK. He's a fine 4.5 million player. His production waivers, but the way you're talking, I'm assuming you watched all 93 Canes games? Kotkaniemi had a season worth his contrat, he just couldn't get the puck to go in
May 31 at 6:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Necas doesn't want out of Carolina, he wants topline minutes. There's a reason he's been very open about coming back.

I'm more than happy keeping KK. He's a fine 4.5 million player. His production waivers, but the way you're talking, I'm assuming you watched all 93 Canes games? Kotkaniemi had a season worth his contrat, he just couldn't get the puck to go in


Im not making any claims about KK's play. Just that the contract is an anchor and provides negative value. CAR needs to pay to get out of that contract. Thats all Im saying about him, get off your soap box, take off your Carolina-coloured glasses and read these replies. You're on an island. That says all you need to know.
 
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