Yeah who wants a player who scored 18 goals in 68 games? 🙄

No value.

This is not a good trade from Minnesota's perspective, but if you have no idea what you're talking about on certain players, don't pretend you do... Rasmussen is not a 4th line fighter... and Fabbri is not a cap dump, despite how many Red Wings fans want him traded. He's a half point per game, middle six winger, which absolutely has value in the NHL. He's on a reasonable contract, and if Yzerman is willing to eat half his salary (he wouldn't need to), that's a very good asset.

This offer is terrible for Minnesota. Not even debatable.

Not good for Minnesota, but as a Wings fan, I wouldn't do it either. The Wings don't need another undersized top six forward. In my opinion, both teams say no.

How you would describe Michael Rasmussen if you've never watched Michael Rasmussen.

Rasmussen is a bottom-line player who was signed because he's a tough guy willing to fight for his teammates. Fabbri is not good otherwise he would have played more. Yes, he's had injuries but he's not worth his contract.

The biggest problem is the pick is 2 years from now. I know Guerin is looking for a unicorn in trading Rossi, but if the pick was a 2024 pick there's a bit more to at least consider. I'd still likely say no, but at least there's something to consider on draft day if someone you really like is available when Detroit's pick is coming up.

It's cool bud. It's very clear you don't know **** about Rasmussen and that's OK, but you should probably stop repeating the same thing you're painfully wrong about.

I have watched him. Fact is they have played Minnesota many times and have watched their games on NHL Network. He's a bottom-line C. Don't act like he's played in top 4 otherwise Detroit wouldn't''t have signed those C's last year including Patrick Kane and played them over him.

You've watched him so much that you've called him a "Tough guy fighter" multiple times now.

with all due respect, tell me how often he played in top 4 I have NHL package to watch other teams and even the TV analysis, I have seen how they talked about him.

Tell me about the memorable fights you've seen him in, since he's a "Tough guy fighter".

He's a 3c guy who scored last year, but also partly was partly signed to extension because of how he stands up for his guys. He tried fighting several wild player's last year, don't remember if he was successful in doing so. But again with all due respect, he's not a top 4 guy.

He has a whopping 3 fights in his 300+ game career, hasn't been playing center for awhile, and I don't know why you'd refer to a forward who you apparently still think is playing as a center as a "Top 4 guy."

... So that's at least three points you're wrong about in just one short post. But tell me more about how you closely follow Rasmussen.

I think there's a deal to be made for rossi but this is a pass from both sides, but def think somethings there

Minnesota declines.

You're at least $1,500,000 short on Seider and $1,000,000 short on Raymond.

Sprong and Perron are good as gone

Where's Berggren and Johansson signings?

Just say you don't watch hockey. 🙄

Another pearl of wisdom. 😬

Oh well you have the NHL package.

This explains it. 🤭

Money isn't the problem with either of those contracts lol.

I mean, if you don’t want your undersized forward Lucas Raymond I’ll give you Middleton+Foligno+4th+2026 1st. Which is basically how this trade looks to a Wild fan.

Why do you keep responding to me, as if I was the one that created this disastrous ACGM?

I said "This is not a good trade from Minnesota's perspective."... You respond "This offer is terrible for Minnesota. Not even debatable."

Okay...

I said "Not good for Minnesota"... You respond with a significantly worse proposal than the OP...

I didn't say I don't want *any* undersized forwards. I said we don't need *another* undersized forward.
Besides, Rossi isn't even remotely close to the caliber player as Raymond.

Because you’re the one who keeps justifying it? Saying Detroit wouldn’t accept immediately is like me saying Minnesota wouldn’t accept the proposal I made. We don’t need undersized players either, but when you win the value that much you most definitely pull the trigger.

Your first sentence in every post is countered by the rest of your comments in that post.

Learn to read bud. I never tried to justify anything. I said several times, it's not a good trade for MInnesota. Point blank. Period. *If* the Wild wanted to trade Rossi (not sure they would), they can certainly get a lot more value than this trade proposal. *However*, and this doesn't negate anything else I've said, Rossi is not the player I personally would want to give up those assets for. It's really not difficult to understand...

And no, the trade you proposed is COMPLETELY different. Again, Rossi is not in the same stratosphere as Raymond.

The issue is I don’t really see Fabbri or Rasmussen as assets in a trade like this. Worth somewhere between a 2nd and 3rd round pick, but not moving the bar when it comes to Rossi. Similar to how a Middleton or Foligno or Hartman don’t move the bar in a Raymond trade. You focused way too hard on the value, instead of the perceived look of the trade (which is what I was after). But hey, if you feel differently more power to you.