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COVID not Team Construction sank the Leafs

Created by: jonh514
Team: 2024-25 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: May 5, 2024
Published: May 5, 2024
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It's fun to poke fun at Leafs fans because they can be a bit "hoity toity" about their precious core 4. On some jerk Habs fan level I'm glad they lost again. Then there's this other part of me that is admittedly jealous of the team they assembled and who just feels bad for them and the bad luck they've had to endure because of an unexpectedly stagnant cap.

I will say this as many times as it needs to be said. If it had not been for COVID, this iteration of the Leafs would have won the cup at least once in the past 4 years. Yes their core 4 are not tough enough. Yes their defense core and goaltending has not been up to playoff standards the past 4 years. But here's the truth that each and every one of you who is gleefully licking your chops this morning at the end of the Core 4 era know: If the cap had gone up as expected - this would not have been an issue. They would have beefed up the defense core because UFAs would have made them a first choice as Tavares did. They would have added team toughness the same way.

This Leafs team was not fatally flawed, they made two huge management mistakes:

1) They assumed the cap would go up
2) When it didn't go up, they refused to sacrifice an elite player to beef up all other areas on the team

That's it. The drafting was excellent. The development was exemplary. The players they bet on were Elite. Just horrible bad luck.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,500,000
2$1,500,000
Trades
TOR
  1. Mesar, Filip
  2. Struble, Jayden
  3. 2024 1st round pick (WPG)
  4. 2024 1st round pick (MTL)
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2024
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2025
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2026
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24$87,500,000$83,421,250$1,022,500$4,670,000$4,078,750
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
C, LW
RFA - 3
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 6
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$11,500,000$11,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 7
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 1
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$812,500$812,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
G
UFA - 3
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$750,000$750K)
LD
RFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
RFA
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
RD
RFA
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 2

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May 5 at 8:16 a.m.
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won the cup is a stretch, but they would have had better depth for sure and their odds of winning would have improved. its true no teams were hurt by the cap as much as the leafs for sure.
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May 5 at 8:21 a.m.
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i think they needed that bergevin bottom 6 magic and they would have better balance

willy nylly is the guy that seemeed to care the most, and that would make FANTASTIC tv..

that pick IS NOT GOING TO A RIVAL. (not the top 5 pick. lottery isnt even done)

when they went out and got big boys like oreilly and gio... i was more worried.
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May 5 at 8:30 a.m.
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i think they needed that bergevin bottom 6 magic and they would have better balance

willy nylly is the guy that seemeed to care the most, and that would make FANTASTIC tv..

that pick IS NOT GOING TO A RIVAL. (not the top 5 pick. lottery isnt even done)

when they went out and got big boys like oreilly and gio... i was more worried.


Bergevin was a fantastic dumpster diver, it's true.
May 5 at 8:32 a.m.
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won the cup is a stretch, but they would have had better depth for sure and their odds of winning would have improved. its true no teams were hurt by the cap as much as the leafs for sure.


I think we're saying the same thing. I understand and accept your point that we don't know if they could have beaten Tampa, Colorado, or Vegas, but they should have been a final four team.
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May 5 at 8:34 a.m.
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Bergevin was a fantastic dumpster diver, it's true.


feeling like we forget matthews was MIA and probably injured, woll not there for last game.

still somehow montreal has had MORE playoff success than the leafs in the last....5?+ years super surprising
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May 5 at 8:38 a.m.
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feeling like we forget matthews was MIA and probably injured, woll not there for last game.

still somehow montreal has had MORE playoff success than the leafs in the last....5?+ years super surprising


Defense wins championships it's true. But you need to score.
May 5 at 8:44 a.m.
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:: insert Jerry Seinfeld that's a shame gif ::
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May 5 at 9:04 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
:: insert Jerry Seinfeld that's a shame gif ::


Yeah... I get your perspective. Like I said, some part of me is happy they lost...
May 5 at 9:58 a.m.
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If you swap Nylander with Marner, Leafs do it
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May 5 at 9:59 a.m.
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If you swap Nylander with Marner, Leafs do it


The challenge is we can ot extend him as a part of the deal.
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May 5 at 10:00 a.m.
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The challenge is we can ot extend him as a part of the deal.


Likely... I think the Leafs want to jack up him value as much as possible so I see an extension being predetermined like PLD
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May 5 at 10:42 a.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Likely... I think the Leafs want to jack up him value as much as possible so I see an extension being predetermined like PLD


I mean we cannot. No sign & trade is possible. It would have to be a handshake deal or involve 2025 picks only...
May 5 at 10:46 a.m.
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I mean we cannot. No sign & trade is possible. It would have to be a handshake deal or involve 2025 picks only...


That's what I mean... Marner agrees to an extension in MTL, just like PLD... Or am I missing something?
May 5 at 11:15 a.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
That's what I mean... Marner agrees to an extension in MTL, just like PLD... Or am I missing something?


Draft is before an extension is possible, no?
May 5 at 11:17 a.m.
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Draft is before an extension is possible, no?


Ohh... Yeah, it would have to be a handshake agreement...


But that's what would happen as if Marner waives the MTL (which I see 100% happening), he would be likely to sign an extension in the 1rst place
May 5 at 11:34 a.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Ohh... Yeah, it would have to be a handshake agreement...


But that's what would happen as if Marner waives the MTL (which I see 100% happening), he would be likely to sign an extension in the 1rst place


I dunno if a GM can trust a handshake agreement these days when a 6OA is involved...
May 5 at 11:42 a.m.
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It doesn't mean they would have built a Cup contender. Every year, GMs make stupid signings in free agency and nothing suggests the Leafs would have necessarily built a great team. Also, it doesn't matter if their top guys don't show up in elimination games.
May 5 at 11:51 a.m.
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I dunno if a GM can trust a handshake agreement these days when a 6OA is involved...


Yeah, but I'd be pretty confident if a guy waived his NMC and had a handshake extension tbh
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May 5 at 12:18 p.m.
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Yeah, but I'd be pretty confident if a guy waived his NMC and had a handshake extension tbh


Would be nice!
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May 5 at 12:43 p.m.
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All top teams were affected by stagnant cap.
Shanaplan was doomed eitherway. No goalie, big playoff Ds or F depth.
The 1 round dynasty is dead lol.
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May 5 at 2:24 p.m.
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All top teams were affected by stagnant cap.
Shanaplan was doomed eitherway. No goalie, big playoff Ds or F depth.
The 1 round dynasty is dead lol.


If they had an additional 10-12M, you think they wouldn't have brought in some better D and a goalie?
May 5 at 3:22 p.m.
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If they had an additional 10-12M, you think they wouldn't have brought in some better D and a goalie?


While other top teams with leaders & character would have also added a weapon. TOR is a regular season built team
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May 5 at 4:34 p.m.
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While other top teams with leaders & character would have also added a weapon. TOR is a regular season built team


I would argue additional cap helps teams with the most elite talent more than teams with less elite talent.
May 5 at 7:11 p.m.
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I would argue additional cap helps teams with the most elite talent more than teams with less elite talent.


It's a team game. Build a team, then grow together with the right leadership. They are built for the regular season, like many teams
 
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